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                        <title>Re: Nine billion of your english pounds...</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Strikers should be put to hard Labour ...  :lol:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrahamS - Member</p>
<p>    i think chewkw has some kind of issue with strikers</p>
<p>I think chewkw just has issues... </p>
<p>Strikers should be put to hard Labour ...  :lol:
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think chewkw just has issues...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think chewkw has some kind of issue with strikers</p>
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<p>I think chewkw just has issues...
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Start with escorts. As the money starts to run out move on to call girls. When the money is almost all gone prossies in massage palours. When you are down to the last £50 go curb crawling.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start with escorts. As the money starts to run out move on to call girls. When the money is almost all gone prossies in massage palours. When you are down to the last £50 go curb crawling.
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[i think chewkw has some kind of issue with strikers
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Developing hover boards for the masses.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developing hover boards for the masses.
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yesterday I drove 126 miles in my car (auto gear is brilliant for you skeptics it&#039;s like saying F1 should use manual gear LOL!) and I managed to drive to areas inaccessible to normal traffic...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrahamS - Member</p>
<p>"Travel freely"? ROFL.</p>
<p>What's the average traffic speed now in London (where this money will be spent)? About 17mph? Less during rush hour.<br />
You think more cars will speed that up? </p>
<p>Yesterday I drove 126 miles in my car (auto gear is brilliant for you skeptics it's like saying F1 should use manual gear LOL!) and I managed to drive to areas inaccessible to normal traffic.  Try visiting Holy Island with your trains ...  :roll:  </p>
<p>Maggots crawl slowly in London regardless of what trains you have. Fact! In fact cities all over the world are full of maggots crawling  slowly like zombies heading to their doom.  Fact.</p>
<p>Yes, travel freely ... you either pay in the restricted zones or simply don't enter it, but at least you have the freedom to choose unlike those strikers demanding your life or dictating their terms to you.   </p>
<p> :lol:
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I give up on rail, no matter how much money gets poured into it, it&#039;s still crap. It&#039;ll all get wasted on &quot;high speed trains&quot; which will cause more problems than they solve and still be unre...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give up on rail, no matter how much money gets poured into it, it's still crap. It'll all get wasted on "high speed trains" which will cause more problems than they solve and still be unreliably late.</p>
<p>Reliability is key with public transport.</p>
<p>I don't care how long a journey takes, I'll plan it out so I arrive on time. However if one train or bus is late or a no show in all that planning is moot.</p>
<p>edit: I say spend it on improved driving test and standards.
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[+1 I vote you for Minister of Moving Things.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peterfile - Member </p>
<p>+1 I vote you for Minister of Moving Things.
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Interesting choice Road or Rail..
I&#039;ll vote.......
Roads.. 
I know but this week I&#039;m commuting by car cos&#039; I&#039;m bored with Rail and I&#039;ve just bought a convertable.
I reserve the right to chan...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting choice Road or Rail..</p>
<p>I'll vote.......</p>
<p>Roads.. </p>
<p>I know but this week I'm commuting by car cos' I'm bored with Rail and I've just bought a convertable.</p>
<p>I reserve the right to change my vote based on weather and whim.
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Absolutely not.  But they do.
NR&#039;s infrastructure upgrades are very often paid via third party investment in the network (which NR then gets the benefit of since it forms part of its RAB - w...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn't the private rail companies pay to upgrade the infrastructure?</p>
<p>Absolutely not.  But they do.</p>
<p>NR's infrastructure upgrades are very often paid via third party investment in the network (which NR then gets the benefit of since it forms part of its RAB - which it can then borrow against).  I spent 3 years acting for various bodies when third party investment in the railway came up for review by the ORR.  it is a hugely clunky mechanism which is massively in NR's favour, which is silly, since it ultimately deters the big money investors from making network improvements. </p>
<p>The fact that Network Rail (a private company) fails to maintain its network to any sort of reasonable standard means that its only really sensible to run heavy rolling stock on the network so that it isn't shaken to death by the substandard infrastructure, leading to HUGE life-cycle maintenance costs for those trains (which are then passed back to passengers and receipents of rail freight etc).</p>
<p>The almost laughable irony is that when you run a heavy train on NR's infrastructure, your track access payments (i.e. the payments the train operating companies pay to NR to use the network) are higher because NR claims that heavier trains mean mean higher maintenance costs for the infrastructure.</p>
<p>What's needed (for rail) is modern and well maintained infrastructure, so that we can catch up with the rest of the world and run lighter, faster, cheaper trains which require less maintenance.  Pigs might also fly.</p>
<p>From a wider perspective, what the UK REALLY needs is inter-modal transport.  and I mean PROPER inter-modal transport, not a half-arsed effort where First Group et al still fail to recognise muliticketing.</p>
<p>Park and Ride<br />
Regulated bus market (like London)<br />
multi-ticketing schemes - to allow bus/underground/rail/Park and Ride etc all on one ticket<br />
Proper priority systems for public transport, so that it is undeniably quicker than car for town journeys<br />
Ride quality improvements for buses and trams (i.e. better road surfaces, everywhere else in Europe does it, just not us).
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