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Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

simondbarnes — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 20:46:00 +0000

but it’s probably the eye-watering cost of replacement cassettes (130 to 300+, depending on your need for lightness) which will make people consider other options

Very much this. I will not pay more than about £30 for a cassette. Ever.

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

martinhutch — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 20:42:18 +0000

Nobody doubts that Eagle has the range, but it's probably the eye-watering cost of replacement cassettes (130 to 300+, depending on your need for lightness) which will make people consider other options even though the cheapest group may come in under this price. The cheapness of replacement cassettes and even rings for this one would be a factor for me - I have to know I can afford to keep it running. I particularly like the idea that this offers choice to people who are locked into 1x by their frame choice. Bit of choice and competition may even drive down prices here and there.

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

Poopscoop — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:58:06 +0000

I hope it finds a place in the market. It's not for everyone but there are enough niches to go round. A bit of genuine innovation is never a bad thing. 👍

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

mikewsmith — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:51:49 +0000

Actually, 12 speed gives you pretty much the same range as 2x- and 32/50 is almost exactly the same ration as 22/34, while 32/10 is pretty much the same as 36/11.

You should know 1x is not the place for evidence based discussions

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

Northwind — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:33:54 +0000

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trimix – some of us need the lower gears and greater range of a 2x system. Me for one for spinning my way up big hills"

Actually, 12 speed gives you pretty much the same range as 2x- and 32/50 is almost exactly the same ration as 22/34, while 32/10 is pretty much the same as 36/11.

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

simondbarnes — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:36:33 +0000

I like it, but I can’t help wondering if it actually introduces more component count, mechanical complexity and cost than a traditional front mech…

Many bikes are now coming without the ability to run a front mech. This is a good solution for them.

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

thisisnotaspoon — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:00:22 +0000

It’s a fair chunky unit (1.25kg) but I guess it’s low enough down that it doesn’t matter too much.

The review says its lighter than a middleburn/Xtr setup so I presume that includes the shifter etc and the actuator weighs less than a conventional mech and bash?

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

grenosteve — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:59:21 +0000

Fat bike version required! I like it, 1x is always a compromise somewhere I find, one that's easy enough to live with, but still would be nice to have the range and choice of ratios of a 2x...

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

pdw — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:39:37 +0000

Seems like an expensive, complicated solution looking for a problem.

That was my first thought, but on reflection, I think it's actually pretty neat, at least compared to a normal front mech setup. The fact that the chain doesn't have to be derailed when shifting means that the teeth don't have to be shaped to help the chain come off, and shifting doesn't happen by forcing the chain over the top of the teeth with a heavy shift action. The fact that the chainline doesn't change between the two rings helps shifting, but isn't really an advantage as a standard double helps improve chainline in the gears you actually use.

Re: That new Vyro chainset just reviewed by STW, how clever??

Sanny — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:36:43 +0000

I cannot speak for 11 but with a 10 speed Shimano rear mech, wide range 42 t cassette and the VYRO chainset, I have had no issues with capacity whatsoever.