Cotic Rocket: first ride review

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The Cotic Rocket looks like nothing else. Don’t like it? Do like it? Either is fine. Shall we talk about how the bike actually handles? Yes, let’s.

  • Brand: Cotic
  • Product: Rocket
  • From: Cotic
  • Price: from £8,799
  • Tested by: Benji for a day

Pros

  • Flexibility (in every sense)
  • Sorted geometry
  • Easy to live with

Cons

  • Cost
  • Unconventional aesthetic

Although I only had a few hours playtime on the new Cotic Rocket, I have a sneaking suspicion it’s easily the most capable Cotic mountain bike ever.

Which may sound unsurprising – seeing as it has a motor – but I’m not just talking about climbing capability. Although it is an extremely adept ascender; steeper actual seat tube, longer chain stays and grippy rear suspension in full effect. It is its capability on descents and traverses that is also a step up from any analogue Cotic I’ve ridden before.

If you’ve followed Cotic over the years you’ll probably have noticed that it doesn’t really release bad bikes. It also doesn’t really release ‘safe’, conservative or retro-minded bikes either.

First and foremost a Cotic bike is designed to handle well. It is also designed to be easy to live with. You’ll not see any cabling passing through headsets on a Cotic.

I talk about these historical aspects of Cotic as a way of addressing the main contentious aspect of the Rocket. That externally mounted battery.

Anyone who’s been on any bike website with a story about the Cotic Rocket on it can’t fail to have noticed the haters.

It is not an old fashioned location for a battery. It is not a cheaper location for a battery. It is not the easiest location for a battery. Cotic has gone with an externally mounted battery because it is the best location. It is the best location from a flexibility point of view.

And I mean flexibility in every sense.

The easy-on easy-off nature of the external battery makes it possible to choose what battery to run (Cotic has 418Wh, 504Wh or 630Wh option). You have flexibility in terms of what weight-to-range ratio you wish to run. Run the lower capacity and have a considerably lighter bike. Or go all in with the 630Wh for big mileage days.

And not having a whacking great down tube means you can actually have some compliance in your frame. There is no point in a Cotic that doesn’t offer controlled chassis flex. Compliance is the whole flipping USP of the brand.

Aluminium e-bikes with internally mounted batteries housed in oversized down tubes are incredibly stiff. So are most carbon e-bikes with similar designs. Not all carbon ebikes, mind. Some are okay. But not everyone wants carbon fibre.

I’d actually say that having the external battery weight where it is on the Cotic Rocket is pretty much the ideal spot for it. A lot of brands may state that having the battery nearer the bottom bracket is beneficial as it’s “low and central” but I’ve not found that to be the case.

First of all, the BB is not the centre of the bike (the centre of the wheelbase is the centre of the bike). And secondly, low slung weight can make bikes handle worse; like you’ve got an anchor between your ankles. Having the battery weight basically at the midpoint between your feet (BB) and your hands (cockpit) is a good thing in my experience. It makes traction much more predictable and controllable and also improves the bike’s turn-in feel.

So yeah. I’m a big fan of the externally mounted battery. I have frequently bemoaned the move away from them.

Before we get on to the bike handling stuff, let’s go in to the motorspeak. The Shimano EP801 should probably have been given a whole new number name. It is not the same as the previous EP8. It has the same headline power numbers (85Nm of torque, 600 watts peak power) but it’s quieter both when delivering power and when coasting (there’s minimal rattle). Anecdotally the EP801 is way more reliable too. (We’re currently going through our recent e-bike owners survey results to assess things like this)

One thing that really stands out about Shimano motors is their fuel economy. For the same capacity battery and same Nm/watts stats, we get more range out of a Shimano system than any other. Obviously, ‘your mileage may vary’ (as they say) depending on a whole swathe of variables but for us, Shimano are the rulers of range. The modest 504Wh battery is very possibly all most people will ever need.

I don’t think there’s any magic to this fuel economy. I think it’s just a by-product of Shimano motors not giving you maximum assist levels as eagerly/early as other motor brands do. You do get 85Nm/600w, just not as frequently as, say, with a Bosch motor. I haven’t yet ridden an EP801 with the new ‘Race’ firmware, which may make things a bit more Bosch-y (with an attendant loss in mpg too no doubt).

I like the Shimano bar remote. Simple, two-buttons. I kinda like the beside-the-stem display from a size and location point of view but I just wish the specced display would show the current time permanently (instead of defaulting back to current speed after a minute or two). The Shimano EN600 (I think) display with its customisable multiple screens would be a good option.

I’ve only ridden the Cotic Rocket for a day but the immediate sensation was that it was very similar to a Cotic RocketMAX but with even more calmness and grip. And more standover by virtue of the improved seatpost insertion from the revised rear suspension layout. Cotic’s Droplink suspension design has been… er, dropped. The new design (without a pivot passing through the seat tube and limiting dropper insertion) is called Rocklink.

Anyhoo, the Rocket ducked and dived into all of the more challenging trails on my test loop and just felt like I’d known the bike for a long time already.

In terms of build kit, this demo bike was a mix of model and model’s own. Basically it had different wheels and fork damper compared to the official spec. It did have the Magura MT7 Pro brakes and Cane Creek DB Air IL rear shock. Both of which are truly excellent performers.

Overall

In terms of what matters, the Cotic Rocket feels like a winner. Great geometry – the best geometry from Cotic so far in my opinion. An impressively retained classic Cotic chassis feel. Good motor. Excellent range. Impressive overall weight for a capable full power eMTB (22.1kg for an XL size bike including pedals).

Oh yes, it ain’t cheap. But that is literally the price you pay for getting things made in the UK.

Cotic Rocket Custom Build Specification

  • Frame // Reynolds 853 steel w/ alloy chain stays, 150mm
  • Shock // Cane Creek DB Air IL G2, 185x55mm Trunnion
  • Fork // Rock Shox Lyrik w/ custom damper, 160mm
  • Wheels // Reserve Alloy MX
  • Front tyre // Maxxis Assegai, 29×2.5in
  • Rear tyre // Maxxis Minion DHR II, 29×2.4in
  • Chainset // Shimano
  • Drivetrain // Shimano XT Di2
  • Brakes // Magura MT7 Pro, 203/203mm
  • Stem // Cotic SHORTERSTEM, 35mm, 35mm
  • Bars // Cotic Calver
  • Grips // Cotic Lock-on
  • Seatpost // One-Up V3 Dropper
  • Saddle //WTB
  • Bottom Bracket //Shimano
  • Motor // Shimano EP801, 85Nm
  • Battery // 504Wh tested
  • Size tested // C5
  • Sizes available // C1, C2, C3, C4, C5
  • Weight // 22.1kg (‘kerb weight’ inc. pedals as depicted in photos)

Geometry of our size C5

  • Head angle // 64.5°
  • Effective seat angle // 76.7°
  • Seat tube length // 465mm
  • Head tube length // 140mm
  • Effective top tube // 674mm
  • BB height // 40mm BB drop (from front wheel)
  • Reach // 520mm
  • Chainstay // 456mm
  • Wheelbase // 1,324mm

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  • Rubber_Buccaneer
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    Thought so 🙂  Situation didn’t sound great 🙁

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    RustyNissanPrairie
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    Have a look at the work that goes into the custom made motor cradles… a hell of a lot lighter than any off the shelf forged cradle you’ll find on other steel ebikes (what few there are) but an awful lot of work… far more than the front triangles of the droplink frames (made by the same people):

    As someone in UK manufacturing – that mount as nice as it is…….. Why didn’t you go for something simpler? There is a lot of (expensive) human welding time in that. Something smaller/simpler laser cut folded jig mounted plates that then accept machined aluminium ‘adaptors’ for a choice of motor or to allow future upgrades. No way as a small manufacturer would I tie myself or owners in with a single choice of (expensive) motor supplier.

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    georgesdad
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    I’m very much pro-UK manufacturing and very much liking this Rocket. I appreciate function and ease of maintenance over ‘fashion’ and I also appreciate when a lot of time and skill has gone into making something.

    However my main concern with all e-bikes is what happens in five years when the motor is dead and there have been two new versions since then, neither of which will fit into your frame? Can someone enlighten me as to whether this is the case? Be a shame to sling an entire frame into landfill because there’s no mounting standard for motors. If I were to find £10,000 to buy a Rocket (and I’d love to) then it’d have to see me out until I can’t ride any more!

    Cy, if you read this then congratulations on doing something different and doing it right. The bike looks fantastic and I’m sure will ride fantastic too ?

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    0range5
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    You don’t need everyone to like something, you only need enough people.

    i’m not after an e-bike at the moment, or another regular bike for that matter. But if I was, I might try to find a way to afford this..!

    On looks, the fact that most people say it’s important doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the most important thing to them and also doesn’t mean they won’t like the look of a given bike that others don’t. I often start to like the look of a bike more when I find the form is due to proveable or feelable function.

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    basergorkobal
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    Congratulations to Cy and the Cotic crew for bringing this project home.

    I can only hope it is successful. With that price tag it is truly a boutique product. And I suppose there will be enough buyers to whom that aspect will be appealing enough to justify the purchase.

    I applaud Cotic for staying true to their unique selling points and delivering something different a hopefully better than the mainstream.

    I can only hope this product is successful enough to justify larger scale, cheaper manufacturing and we’ll see a cheaper option down the line.

    One I can afford/justify more easily.

    chiefgrooveguru
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    “However my main concern with all e-bikes is what happens in five years when the motor is dead and there have been two new versions since then, neither of which will fit into your frame? Can someone enlighten me as to whether this is the case?”

    It’s not something I can recall hearing of, so it can’t be a frequent occurrence. There are service centres who can rebuild motors and it seems like they’re no less reliable or more expensive than decent forks or shocks.

    The bigger issue has tended to be control electronics and particularly poor sealing against moisture ingress. Anecdotally though, there are an awful lot more e-bikes around than a few years ago and there seem to be fewer posts about “my ebike has died because I jetwashed it …” so maybe the manufacturers have got better at this (or owners have stopped jetwashing them)?

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    dazh
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    The descent of mountain biking into a ‘sport’ of fat blokes riding motorbikes continues. I’m out 🙁

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    RustyNissanPrairie
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    Motorbikes are cheaper

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    Blackflag
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    And yet most folk i see on ebikes aren’t fat…

    I’m a bit overweight and spend most of my time on a regular bike.

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    jameso
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    Only 8.3% of the 13,000 people who responded to Pinkbike’s survey said looks weren’t important when buying a bike. Wiping out over 90% of your customers doesn’t sound like great business to me.

    Find your niche and build it, find your following and build it  – sounds like good business to me if you’re not aiming at megacorp status. 8.3% of the total market is great for a small brand when every other brand is chasing that 91.7% who buy on looks, fashion etc.

    And just look at those raw motor cradle pics .. that’s premium custom frame building level of work. The only think that isn’t quite right in the end result (for me) is the battery casing styling and far dues to Cotic for doing it anyway, that may change in future. The entire industry needs a bigger dose of function over form and I’ve all the time in the world for brands who work that way.

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