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Posted on: May 25, 2011
How does it compare to other short travel FS bikes that you’ve reviewed like the BMC Speedfox and the dale RZ120?
Very interested to know.
Difficult one. They’re all great all-rounder trail bikes.
With the Pivot I felt like I didn’t have to take it easier on descents (coming from 150-170mm bikes). Although it has 20mm less travel than the RZ120 and Speedfox I felt it could be ridden harder/faster over rougher stuff.
Both the RZ120 and the Speedfox may be better for more overtly XC riding as they were a bit lighter.
For me it would be be a choice between the RZ120 and the Mach 4.
The suspension feel is quite different. The RZ120 is the firmer pedaly bike but more skittish. The Mach 4 isn’t as rigid/platformy under pedaling but feels more active more of the time.
And it would depend what you want in a bike. The RZ120 is an off-the-peg complete bike that’s built up more towards the XC end of the ‘Trail’ spectrum (as and such a great buy if that’s your main type of riding). It could be made more capable of burlier/bigger riding but it would require swapping quite a bit of stuff: fork & wheels (bolt thru), shorter stem, wider bars etc. The Pivot can be built up with the stuff you want from the start, so would be the better choice if you want a bike that’s a bit more ‘adventurey’ than ‘XC’.
Sounds more like the (old) Orange ST4…low, nippy, but burlier n plusher than average…?
I’m put off the rz120 as I don’t want a complete bike and that green colour is awful. From your review it sounded well suited for the dales riding I do and my LBS might be able to sort out a demo.
Frame only (Pivot) would allow me to transplant my kit from my HT, but no chance of a test ride.
My riding style is getting more adventurous, I was thinking of something like a Hemlock, but it’s probably too much bike for me.
thanks Benji. top quality review, its great to have this sort of well written and insightful description of ride characteristics.
The lower link area looks like a perfect place for my fellow mudmonsters to party in the winter.
It wasn’t as bad as you think (or I predicted) actually. Not really much worse than the typical amount of mud collecting on some hardtails’ chainstay yoke/bridge, just a bit higher up. I’d advise using a front mech with a strong return spring though as that’s the only thing that mud may bung up. Never had any issues with mud clogging up the tyre path.
Any more info on the tyres? They look a bit like Ardents which are great in most condistions but utter gash in mud/soft trails.
They’re a bit like Ardents in a straight line but less rounded in profile; they have a decent shoulder’edge to them that digs in a surprising amount on less-firm terrain.
MMMMmm looks good, as much as Iove my 140mm Prophet, my Superlight @ 115mm make more sense most of time, when riding locally. This look a good alternative option to the superlight for those who dislike the single pivot action but want something a ‘bit’ tougher than your average XC full susser..
Hi Ben, thanks for the write up. I was surprised to read you find the RZ120 is a firmer pedaling platform than the Mach 4, isn’t that the ‘claim to fame’ for DW-link?
Whats your opinion of the Manitou Minutes? In comparison to the other 120mm forks on the market? People in the know seem to rate them very highly…?
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