Firstly, I acknowledge I’m on a tidyish wage doing what I went to uni to study so I am grateful of that – there are plenty far worse off than I BUT…I look around at the work-shy there who are very good at making themselves look busy but have all day to chat bollux and watch YouTube, the self-serving bottom feeders out to score points and make themselves look good, the high earners/high status aholes that everyone wonders what they actually do.
I’m paid to design stuff so there’s a very tangible end product – I’m decent but not spectacular at what I do and work hard if sitting on your arse in front on a Mac is hard work…I’m getting to resent some people there because they seem to do feckall and it’s never questioned.
I put my headphones on and am starting to get quite insular and when I ask genuine legit and reasonable questions I feel like people think I’m being awkward…ie main top man account handler today refs a previous job with wrong job number…try and find it on system and can’t so ask…how dare I question him!
Sorry – bad day at office making me question my future in general – could be better but could be a lot worse too! Who else tolerates they’re job but doesn’t really like who they work for/indifferent or flip side totally loves what they do?

I think lots of people go through this from time to time.

Managers are rarely as daft as they seem and won’t allow people to plod on year after year with little or no output.

When I feel that I’m the only one pulling their weight it’s usually because I’m busy that day, stressed and angry because everyone else seems to be cruising, invariably it passes and the next week when things are better and I can ease up a bit I’m less irritated by others so don’t notice when they’re under pressure.

Also, never under estimate ‘plodders’ I worked with some guys who’ve been at their swindle for so long they can stagger you with their ability to do their job with little or no effort. I knew a guy who managed a £4m finance portfolio ‘working’ maybe 3 hours a day, maybe 4 days a week if that, he was *that* good.

what he says. I am very qualified (Ph.D) and an ex Professor and now work in industry. I am paid well for my experience and skills but actually I can do the actual grunt work in about 1-2 hours per day

but it’s the skills I have in knowing what to do and how to do it and then actually getting it done on time that matter

not how many hours I have my nose to the grind stone

Focus on yourself. Be somewhere you like to be, with people you want to be, and with a wage you consider to be fair to your efforts.

Dont let orher peoples lifestyles, persona’s, apparent material gains* or idleness bother you, it’ll drag you down trust me ive been there for a very long time and am slowly dragging myself out. Be a good “person”, true to your own values.

*appearances can be deceptive.

Also, never under estimate ‘plodders’ I worked with some guys who’ve been at their swindle for so long they can stagger you with their ability to do their job with little or no effort.

That’s me, I can do my job in a fraction of the hours I’m contracted to. I’m not doing any extra just because others take the full 40hrs.

i’m a dba. Most of my job consists of making sure all is working fine, running a few scripts etc. I may look at the internet or read a kindle whilst running long queries. It may look like i’m slacking. I’m not.

And when the poo hits the spinning thing, i can guarantee i’m the one still there fixing things. I’ve also had many, many years of hard work and learning stuff getting to this stage.

I work for myself and love what I do.

I’m busy, have enough money coming in and no one bothers me. Only gripe is the DVSA moving the goalposts on the Driving test meaning at the moment on one is sure exactly how things are going to be when the new test comes in.

Don’t think I could ever work in a company or office, I’d kill someone 😀

ie main top man account handler today refs a previous job with wrong job number…try and find it on system and can’t so ask…how dare I question him!

Hmmm, account handlers/managers – in my experience they’re often never as smart as they think they are. Giving incorrect info then blaming someone else for their error is all too common, but arguing the toss with a jackass isn’t going to go anywhere that’s a happy place, I just walk away, muttering dire imprecations and considering what retribution can be carried out at a later date; a dish best served cold, etc… 😉

I am the laziest workshy person I have ever come across. I’m reasonably well educated but loathe working with people, loathe structure and rules and lack any type of ambition and drive. I now drive a black cab two days a week and its the only job I’ve ever done that I haven’t hated. I earn buttons but I don’t dread going into work (a first for me) and have a great quality of life.

I would be the last person I would ever employ. I just take the piss and cannot be replied upon in a work environment.

Poor but very happy.

Interesting, I gave the ‘ignore what your colleagues are doing and concentrate on making sure you do your job as best as you can’ pep talk this afternoon to a couple of team members showing the same kinds of dissatisfaction as the op.
Think of yourself as your own best customer.

Best episode ever

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The best job i have had is peat probing.

Literally walking around the highlands prodding them with a stick.

Now i build civil model s in Civil3D which takes very little effort on my part entirely selftaught but bar my immediate boss everyone else struggles with despite a number of courses. Its boring though after the initial problem solving so i’ve taken up doing some scour assessments… Walking around the highlands looking at the labours of victorian railway engineers.

Today a barn plopped into the mud at my feet from a railway bridge and gave me a dirty look and flew off. A good day!

I found a compromise in at least working with a team of people I like, after several years of working with a team of people I hated.

I’m in an IT/Informatics Projects team: the work is varied, occasionally hectic, rarely slack, usually interesting, but always continuous. There’s always something else coming up, and we’re a small team with a lot of specialists and a couple of generalists (me being the latter). I often used to end up acting as a triage service for the specialists, but have accumulated a lot of knowledge on the way so can take stuff on rather than always having to pass it over now. Despite being the most junior/lowest pay band, I’m involved in more projects than anyone else, albeit at a slightly lower level. That’s been recognised recently and I’ve been bumped up a grade. I work hard when I have to, cruise when I feel like I can, but can rarely afford to just spin my wheels because we have too much on the cards at the moment. That’s okay with me, though, because the variety means I can switch tasks when I get bored of one, I’m not just plodding at the same job for an entire day.

I’ve developed a highly specialised hatred for a certain breed of Project Manager, though…

I sort of know where you are coming from. I am one of 20 at my grade ( band 5 – trained shop floor nurse) However the band 7 ( charge nurse) has been taken to work elsewhere and thus the deputy ( band 6) is very busy dong the band 7s job plus her own. This has left me in a position where I see most of the other staff nurses still only doing the basic job and I keep on finding tasks not done or badly done that the deputy should be managing people to do – so I end up doing them. Its getting pretty annoying watching others theoretically my equal doing a lot less and that everyone comes to me for advice all the time – despite me being the most recent recruit amongst the band 5s. Effectivly I am doing 90% of the deputies job as she is doing the charge nurses job

Nowt much I can do about it and I have spoken to the boss about how I feel. Part of my annoyance is I stepped down from a deputies role because I don’t like doing it but in this situation if I don’t do it ( unpaid) the patients will suffer

i hate my job as the big juxtaposition is that its an 8 mile bike commute away, pays pretty well but is helping to destroy the planet by making lots of non recyclable stuff of which i’m a key part.
Anything else will be a car commute for less money but probably wouldn’t harm the environment.

I know what to do but a few key pieces of the puzzle arnt in place yet to let me walk away.

and work hard if sitting on your arse in front on a Mac is hard work

I do similar and I can honestly say It’s not. You say you’re well paid to do a job that you trained for, you are incredibly fortunate. So what if other people appear to be playing the game better than you, how does that affect your quality of life?

If you go through life comparing yourself to other people you will have a life of misery, just look at the position you’ve found yourself and decide by your own standards whether it’s alright or not. If it is then all good, if not set about a course of action to improve it.

good post muppet

good post muppet

+1

Until fairly recently it occurred to me I always wanted be someone else. Now im finding out who i am, and im doing it in middle age – its not all pleasant. Dont do that.

I work with people who oversell themselves (two new persons become our boss so want to change things) to manage us a bunch of part-time workers. They have career while we just work to survive …

They “save” cost by reducing our working hours. 🙄

We are as qualified on papers with more experiences and can do their jobs in an instant, but we don’t have the look that fit their criteria nor do we “lick boots” so we just take left overs. We care about our jobs to do it well with honesty.

We don’t wish those people anything …

We were talking about this at work today only you aren’t going to like what I’m going to say!*
My role today was purely a support role (retouching images on set so client can be re-assured it’s all going to work)
Thing is I also sometimes have the role of the person I was working for and the responsibility and renumeration are of a much higher magnitude when your role is at the top and everyone is looking at you to deliver, yes it will all fall apart if you don’t do your bit but ultimately the buck stops at the top.

Try running your own agency and you will understand where I am coming from.

*if you are running the show then you should already know this. It’s about pressure and delivering results. Yes there are cruisers who you wonder how they got there but that’s life, deal with it.

In my early twenties(late ’70s) I had a near death experience, i.e. Salmonella food poisoning, lost 3stone in 10 days, unconscious for 2wks, off work for 6(should have been longer!!). Been doing the “same” job for 38yrs come next week. In that 38yrs although I have been fixing machines there have been many, many changes.
I have only concerned myself with my own issues, problems , and work/life balance etc, etc. What other people do or don’t do I couldn’t care less.
Life is too short…….
If you are earning what you need to live and enjoy what you do ignore whatever is going on around you(unless it is affecting or having an affect on your life) 2yrs ago I had to walk away from a job because I could no longer work with a guy(look up narcissist). I dropped £7k but my health & wellbeing is so much better, my biking not so!!!!

IME it’s never about the role, all about the individual. Some people are just utterly annoying, some only so in certain environments, some annoying because of personality type clashes. Whether sales, service, support or management, some people are just ‘terrwats’.

I retired at 47 but never really hated my job. Are you sure your not being a touch oversensitive ?

Can you opt to work at home? That way,you get on with what you’re expected to deliver without being so influenced by the work ethic/antics of your colleagues. If it turns out that you can get through your work in less time then that means a cheeky wee ride at lunchtime is on the cards.

Firstly, I acknowledge I’m on a tidyish wage doing what I went to uni to study so I am grateful of that – there are plenty far worse off than I BUT…I look around at the work-shy there who are very good at making themselves look busy but have all day to chat bollux and watch YouTube, the self-serving bottom feeders out to score points and make themselves look good, the high earners/high status aholes that everyone wonders what they actually do.
I’m paid to design stuff so there’s a very tangible end product – I’m decent but not spectacular at what I do and work hard if sitting on your arse in front on a Mac is hard work…I’m getting to resent some people there because they seem to do feckall and it’s never questioned.
I put my headphones on and am starting to get quite insular and when I ask genuine legit and reasonable questions I feel like people think I’m being awkward…ie main top man account handler today refs a previous job with wrong job number…try and find it on system and can’t so ask…how dare I question him!

I find lazy people annoying, but I don’t find them as half as annoying as arseholes with martyr complexes.

Why are you so ethically attached to working hard? Working hard is for **** idiots, maximising the work to renumeration ratio is where it is at.

You only live once mate and this planet is too full of **** to take it seriously.

I am quitting to pursue my dream of not having to work here.

I wish I had used that on my last resignation letter !

I got to the point where I was looking up each day and seeing all those “above” me were living the high life whilst myself and others worked our nuts off to allow them to do so.
So I quit , as did a few others. The company soon folded !
Working for myself now, pretty much doing what I was doing, but for far greater rewards

I’m on a tidyish wage doing what I went to uni to study

When you have a bad day, just remind yourself that most people don’t have that. Take up a hobby such as cycling and spend your non-work hours doing something enjoyable.

Any job gets boring after a while, try looking around for something better. If you do find something better, take it. If you don’t, the experience might give you a fresh perspective on your current job.

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I sort of know where you are coming from. I am one of 20 at my grade ( band 5 – trained shop floor nurse) However the band 7 ( charge nurse) has been taken to work elsewhere and thus the deputy ( band 6) is very busy dong the band 7s job plus her own. This has left me in a position where I see most of the other staff nurses still only doing the basic job and I keep on finding tasks not done or badly done that the deputy should be managing people to do – so I end up doing them. Its getting pretty annoying watching others theoretically my equal doing a lot less and that everyone comes to me for advice all the time – despite me being the most recent recruit amongst the band 5s. Effectivly I am doing 90% of the deputies job as she is doing the charge nurses job
Nowt much I can do about it and I have spoken to the boss about how I feel. Part of my annoyance is I stepped down from a deputies role because I don’t like doing it but in this situation if I don’t do it ( unpaid) the patients will suffer

I was a ward 6 until recently. I got sick of watching all the 2s and 5s got home at 8pm and having to stay and do audits and off duties etc after spending the shift helping the other staff with their workload. Plus the money was worse. I earnt far less as I’d be doing no unsocial hours.

I’m now an agency money grabber band 5 equivalent and I’m much happier. The least stressed I’ve been in years and the money is good. Felt like I’ve made a good move for once because at the end of it all I really despise nursing.

Who else tolerates they’re their 😀 job but doesn’t really like who they work for/indifferent or flip side totally loves what they do?

I left my corporate nonsense backstabbing job 7 years ago to become a freelance engineer / surveyor. Much happier but still see elements of what I hated or elements the Op mentions but as I’m a bit more detached from them (due to being freelance) so I couldn’t give a flying ####. Let them argue but who has the best company car, I couldn’t care less if the (on the books) engineers I’m working along side mess it up, it’s not anything to do with me, it’s not my responsibility.

As a flip side, I don’t partake in gossip, back stabbing, I keep my opinions to myself, if I see someone stealing a living, I let them get on with it,

Should say, I often wear headphones when I’m in the right situation to do so.

My company has been set very high targets in many areas by an industry regulator. It tough and we are struggling, but it is a huge step in the right direction in terms of customer service.

As a result, the role I am doing for the last four years (2 grades above my salary) is completely different to when I started. Desk based rather than mobile, and needs a much wider understanding of internal processes and systems to be able to get things done, which I’ve picked up through working with other departments.

However, the amount of people who just don’t care, don’t see the bigger picture, and are more worried about finishing (or not finishing) their work early and keeping their heads down until they can go home is staggering. They know the targets we have to meet, they know how one job left unfinished snowballs the rest of the week, but ‘I finish in 90 minutes and I’ve packed up so I can’t go back to check X’ is still commonplace.

They are nearly all shareholders, all have decent pensions, yet its them versus the company, wouldn’t want to do anything that might make the business more successful!

Its a its a boring life sitting on a finished job for four hours…I obviously didn’t get the memo when I was recruited and used to ask for the next job or tell the boss I was finished and that I was taking a siesta unless he wanted me to go somewhere! Which means you get an easy life as the boss trusts you, I can help when needed and when I’m sitting on my arse with no work, it doesn’t matter as the boss is aware and quite happy to leave me be.

I hate mine. I don’t have to work very hard to be honest and due to the behaviour of the corporate behemoth that controls us, I have little motivation anymore. Just do enough is the new mantra – shame on me.
One positive is the flexibility to pick up my son from school & due to various circumstances I’m stuck in it for the foreseeable. 😐

I don’t like my job, but I really like the people I work with. I’ve never taken a job through choice only ever out of necessity. Would be nice to be able to look forward to going to work and feeling some sense of accomplishment. What I do means I can support my family though and that’s the main thing.

I’m waiting to be let go.

Once the current contract ends – it won’t be extended there are 4 of us on our arses plus the product we are sme in has all but been discontinued in our company.

The just do enough mantra is rife 80% of the time. – we do how ever all step up and knock in 18hr days at load out.

Can’t wait to get into a new challenge that engages as cruising really does get boring after a while.

As above its Rarely not noticed when folk are cruising.

Managers are rarely as daft as they seem and won’t allow people to plod on year after year with little or no output.

I’m working in Nigeria this week and can assure you that doing nothing useful can be an entire lifetime career….

There’s not actually that many slackers left where I work (I don’t count myself as one either, despite typing this during working hours…). But people in support roles (in IT) can seem to be from time to time. I’m on the projects/change side and whilst usually busy do have the occasional slack period, I generally just wig out a bit during those and remind myself I don’t have to finish work every day with my head spinning and worrying about getting through the next day’s work. I probably should take the time to do training or catch-up on admin but I think I’d have burnt out long ago if did that.

At least the company you work for hasn’t put you on a self employed zero hours contract.
No holiday pay, no pension contributions. No employment rights.

Ha footflaps

I’m based in Angola. I’d be inclined to agree with that statement.

It doesn’t go unnoticed it’s just that the unions have the power and the pay offs are huge thanks to gov backing and no “social”

Very hard and expensive to get rid of even a non performer.

I’m based in Angola.

You have my deepest sympathies 🙂

I recently left a job in social care after 10 years of hating the system I was working in.
I started an office job (my first ever office job) at a university a couple of weeks ago. With it being the start of the academic year, everyone kept telling me how crazy busy it was. I looked around and everyone seemed pretty relaxed, no phones ringing off the hook, office empty by 3:30, plenty of emails planning staff dinners for Xmas and lots of nice long lunch breaks for everyone. I can’t help but feel I’ve wasted 15 years not working in an office.

Ah so you understand why I’m non fussed about the job ending 🙂

Fin25.

Give it 6 months. I thought the same when I got my first job after uni.

After 6 months I wished I was back on the tools. And even still the slightest sniff of needing something assembled or a tech document checked out I’m in the workshop quicksmart.