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  • Your AM/Enduro Bike Info?
  • pbooker1995
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    Just doing some geometry calculations and just wondered what everyone else is running?

    ill start it off.

    Frame: Alpine 160
    Fork: Vengeance Air HLR, Axle to Crown= 565
    Head Angle: 65.1
    Seat Angle: 72.2
    Wheelbase: 1180
    BB Height: 365

    Bit of a weird thread i know but just interested to hear what everyone else is running.

    hughjayteens
    Free Member

    Santa Cruz Bronson C

    Frame: Bronson C
    Fork: 2014 Talas 34 CTD Kashima – A2C – 544.4
    Head Angle: 67
    Seat Angle: 73
    Wheelbase: 1164
    BB Height: 346

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    SC Blur LTc
    140mm Rear/160mm Front/150mm Dropper
    2×10 Weight about 13.5kg
    HA 66-67 depending on rubber
    Rest don’t care about and never measured,

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    jambalaya
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    Transition Covert (2012) in white because the black was sold out
    Fox 36 Talas 150mm forks from 2006 as those are the ones I owned already
    I bought it as I loved the one I test rode, I have no idea of the numbers

    kimbers
    Full Member

    I reckon you really ought to be considering reach and chainstay length too

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    kimbers – Member
    I reckon you really ought to be considering reach and chainstay length too

    I reckon the Pantone number is fairly important too

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    It’s all about grip diameter these days.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    I reckon the Pantone number is fairly important too

    Take two bottles into the shower? Do I look like a ****?

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Frame: Reign X
    Fork: 160mm Lyrik with Mission Control damper
    Head Angle: Couldn’t care less
    Seat Angle: Couldn’t care less
    Wheelbase: Couldn’t care less
    BB Height: Couldn’t care less

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    Frame: Yep
    Fork: One of them too
    Head Angle: Slightly to the left
    Seat Angle: Tipped back so I can balance on 2 legs
    Wheelbase: Never bought anything from them
    BB Height: About 5ft (2nd shelf down)

    Euro
    Free Member

    Shoe size: 11
    Favourite Colour: Blue (or sometimes green)
    Least favourite colour: Yellow
    Star Sign: The fishy one
    Favoutite drink: Milk
    Animal i’m most like: Human
    AM/Enduro: Yes

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    Not here yet but allegedly:

    Frame: Banshee Spitfire (140)
    Fork: Pike RCT 27.5 150 Axle to Crown= 542
    Head Angle: 66.5
    Seat Angle: 74
    Wheelbase: 1154
    BB Height: 346
    Grip diameter: 32 😉

    Angles and BB height can be changed +/- 0.5 deg & 6mm

    P.S. I like the “we’re not geeky saddos on a forum” posturing from the novelty responders, you almost had me fooled… 😛

    kimbers
    Full Member

    oh and bar/stem length and bar to ground height

    tbh after riding the ukge series last year Id say mud clearance was the most important number!

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    Euro.You know the theory that somewhere out there is a perfect soulmate waiting to complete you?
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    You’re not it 😥 (size 10,not 11….the search continues)

    chip
    Free Member

    wwaswas – Member
    It’s all about grip diameter these days.

    Missus always says grip diameter is far more important than effective top tube length. 😀

    HansRey
    Full Member

    Interesting. Never checked this before when getting a bike, my only criteria is ‘does it feel right?’

    frame: marin quake
    Head Angle: 67
    Seat Angle: 69.5
    Wheelbase: 1145.6
    BB Height: 345

    seat angle seems lower than others listed so far. Sign of it’s age? It was made before enduro become the word?

    maxtorque
    Full Member

    Ok, question: Has anyone who’d fitted an angleset and slackened off their headangle by 1deg really actually noticed the difference without changing anything else?

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    Ok, question: Has anyone who’d fitted an angleset and slackened off their headangle by 1deg really actually noticed the difference without changing anything else?

    I haven’t tried it but I bet I would – I have this horrible curse of noticing tiny changes in set-up. It’s very annoying! I’ve learnt that I have to check my tyre pressures before every ride because I’ll notice if they’re off by more than about 10%. I was going to say that I wish I was someone that could just ride whatever bike happily however it’s set up, but it’s that same ability to perceive small differences which makes me good at my dayjob.

    Not to compare myself to F1 drivers but I’ve noticed that if you give Jensen Button a really good car he’ll drive as fast or faster than anyone else but if he has a less than perfect set-up he’ll drop way off the pace, whilst someone like Hamilton or Alonso can wrestle the most difficult car around a track fast. I’m more like a rubbish version of Button…

    Northwind
    Full Member

    maxtorque – Member

    Ok, question: Has anyone who’d fitted an angleset and slackened off their headangle by 1deg really actually noticed the difference without changing anything else?

    I changed mine by 2 and yep, pretty big difference. More noticable than adding 10mm of travel to the same bike.

    Also changed the HA by 1 degree or so with shock eccentrics, I mostly noticed the seatstay bashing off the frame with that one 😉

    Cotic Hemlock
    165-ishmm coil Lyriks
    65-ish head angle
    no idea of BB height or wheelbase. Less and more than it used to be.

    LoCo
    Free Member

    Yes, shortened the rear shock on the Remedy a few times, noticed difference each time, ended up with a 64 degree headangle with a 29er frontend (rockshox pike rct3) (26″ frame and 27.5″ rear wheel)
    Have a 27.5″ front end on way to try that as well, as was too much for ‘just riding about’ (not very ‘involved’) , but amazing on fast and steep stuff, in 29er spec.

    fr0sty125
    Free Member

    Mine should be something like

    Frame: El-Guapo
    Fork: RS Sektor RL 150 Axle to Crown= 535
    Head Angle: 67.5
    Seat Angle: 72.5 – 73
    Wheelbase: 1150
    BB Height: 340 ~

    mindmap3
    Free Member

    Large Banshee Rune V2 running the neutral drop outs which should give me a head angle of 65.5 degrees or so with a 71 degree seat angle and a bottom bracket of 347mm.

    It’s running a 160mm BOS Deville fork with a 50mm stem and 780mm bars.

    The wheelbase is 1180mm. All of the above assumes that the Devilles are 545mm axle to crown and that my Hans Dampf’s don’t have an impact.

    zerocool
    Full Member

    Frame: Orange Alpine 160 (2012)
    Fork: Fox 36 (ATC Perfect)
    Head Angle: Perfect
    Wheelsize:26
    Seat Angle: Spot On
    Wheelbase: Perfect
    BB Height: Feels good
    Chainstay: Spot On
    Colour: Neon Pink
    Mud Clearance: Loads

    Tom KP

    butterbean
    Free Member

    Completely bog standard S-Works Enduro 29 🙂

    kimbers
    Full Member

    I slackened the headangle on my Stinky by a degree or so with ofsett bushings, felt more stable to me

    my enduro bike is
    Frame: medium Kona Process 153
    Fork: RS Pike
    Head Angle: 66.5
    Wheelsize:650b
    Seat Angle: 74
    Wheelbase: 1161
    Reach 435mm
    Stem: 40mm
    Bars: 760mm
    BB drop: 10mm
    Chainstay: 425mm
    Colour: neon orange
    Mud Clearance: fair with 2.35 hds on i25 rims

    DezB
    Free Member

    Frame: Yeti 575
    Fork: Fox Float 130 Kashima 15mm non-tapered (They’re new, so i know this stuff!)
    Head Angle: Dunno (or how to find it)
    Seat Angle: Dunno (s’good one though)
    Wheelbase: dunno (fits me)
    BB Height: dunno (BB’s off the ground)
    Bars: 750mm (I cut them down from 780 so know this)
    Stem: 70mm
    Wheels: MTB size

    TheFlyingOx
    Full Member

    I am absolutely baffled as to why your average Joe would know any of this info, or need to know. Surely all the head angle/BB height/wheelbase changes the minute you sit on it, and depends on your weight, shock/fork pressures, etc?

    FWIW, with a quick bit of googling:
    Frame: Pronghorn PR6-LT
    Fork: 2012 Fox Float 160 FIT RLC
    Head Angle: 69° with a 150mm fork, I guess 67/68° with the 160mm one
    Seat Angle: 73°
    Wheelbase: 43.4″
    BB Height: 13.9″

    What exactly should I be aware of as a result of the above?

    Hob-Nob
    Free Member

    What exactly should I be aware of as a result of the above?

    I would know that a 26″ bike with a 69° HA & BB up in the clouds would ride like an absolute turd, for me.

    But then I know what I like, in terms of the basics. HA, BB height, TT length, chainstays etc.

    TheFlyingOx
    Full Member

    Heh.

    I would know that a 26″ bike with a 69° HA & BB up in the clouds would ride like an absolute turd

    See, that’s what everyone said when they first hit the market. I actually tried one, bought it as a result, and I’m now dreading the day I kill it because I won’t be able to buy another. It’s great.

    TBF, it was a little bit sketchy with the 150mm DT Swiss rubbish, but the Fox really make it a different bike.

    TheFlyingOx
    Full Member

    But then I know what I like, in terms of the basics. HA, BB height, TT length, chainstays etc.

    This is the bit that confuses me. So you’d potentially buy a bike without even seeing it in the flesh, never mind testing it, because it has all the magic numbers you like? Or you’d discount a test on a particular bike because it doesn’t have the magic numbers you like?

    Not knocking it, it’s just something I never thought of.

    Hob-Nob
    Free Member

    Hence why I said “for me” 🙂

    There’s no right or wrong answer – you just learn what you like, but yes, if you break it, you probably are screwed!

    Edit: I wouldn’t necessarily buy without seeing it – but I would narrow my search down massively by discounting stuff it’s unlikely I would like. That’s not to say you do’t hop on a mates bike every now & then give the a go.

    Some things you can address seperately anyway, stuff like HA’s can be adjusted with headsets, etc, but if it’s in the right sort of ballpark I know I should be able to jump on something and it will work for me 🙂

    maxtorque
    Full Member

    Interesting feedback regarding the anglesets. Might be worth trying one into my zesty for this summers alps extravaganza? 😉

    scottfitz
    Free Member

    I would know that a 26″ bike with a 69° HA & BB up in the clouds would ride like an absolute turd, for me.

    offset bushings?

    Hob-Nob
    Free Member

    offset bushings?

    As I mentioned above, some stuff you can change, with bushes, headsets etc.

    My own bike is slightly short shocked to reduce the HA ever so slightly, done for more of a trial than anything, as I wanted to see if it made it even better (IMO it has).

    scottfitz
    Free Member

    superfli
    Free Member

    SantaCruz Heckler 6.1 medium, 2011 Vengeance HLR 160mm, 555mm A2C forks. Offset bushings. Its probably all over the place!

    Head Angle – 65
    Seattube Angle – 68
    BB height – 350mm
    Chainstay length – 440mm
    TopTube length – 570mm
    Wheelbase – 1140mm
    Bars – 745mm
    Stem – 65mm

    I do feel perched on top when the seats up, but good when its down. Would like something longer and possibly lower, but cant afford it 🙂

    robhughes
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    shortened the rear shock on the Remedy a few times.29er frontend (rockshox pike rct3) (26″ frame and 27.5″ rear wheel)

    Now that,s how to play with a setup.
    Only Loco….. 🙂

    goodgrief
    Free Member

    Strange Five
    Fox 36 150 AtC 550
    -2 degree headset cups
    HA ~65
    SA ~72
    CSL 425mm
    BB 315mm
    effective TT ~600mm
    WB 1170mm

    The -2 degree cups are a recent thing and made a big difference. On certain trails (fast) it’s fantastic but dulls the bike a bit when things mellow out. -1.5 cups are on their way!

    tomaso
    Free Member

    Specialized Pitch but gone from 140 Pikes to 160 Lyrik so geometry is different. I had a play on a geometry webpage thingy and now know it all

    Ha 65.76
    As 72.76
    CSL 421mm
    WB 1194mm
    Effective top tube 624mm

    Oh and its the nuts 🙂

    scottfitz
    Free Member

    Frame: Cannondale Prophet
    Forks: 160mm coil lyrik with motion control
    HA: 64.5
    SA: 70
    BB hight: 335mm
    Wheel base: 1130mm

    Still playing around with the offset bushings

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