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222 posts & 87 voices | Started 8 months ago by fourbanger | Latest reply from van cough cough

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fourbanger - Member

....as we have a no helmet, no ride policy"

First and foremost I DO NOT want another helmet debate as it's getting dull.
That out the way; I met up with a new group of road riders today in my normal gear which doesn't include a lid (on road). I was told they'd let me of this time but couldn't ride with them again without a helmet.
I'm just trying to get my head around how my personal choice of PPE effects anyone else in the group in any way. I wouldn't comment on someone elses choice of protective kit, it's down to the individual with what they feel keeps them safe IMO. Can someone shed some light on this?

Posted 8 months ago #
davidtaylforth - Member

Perhaps they just dont want to be associated with the kind of nob head that doesnt wear a lid?

Posted 8 months ago #
philconsequence - Member

its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.

simple

they have just as much right to make that choice as you do yours.

Posted 8 months ago #
surfer - Member

I DO NOT want another helmet debate as it's getting dull.

Then dont start another one

Posted 8 months ago #
binners - Member

You didn't have baggies on did you?

Posted 8 months ago #
wwaswas - Member

is it a club? do they have liability insurance? does it only cover them if riders have helmets?

if you don't like it/their attitude ride with someone else?

I feel more comfortable ridign with people with helmets, tbh, if only for the selfish reason of not wanting to hold their brains in until the ambulance arrives if they come off.

Posted 8 months ago #
crispedwheel - Member

its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.

This.

Posted 8 months ago #
FunkyDunc - Member

If they decide that to be in 'their club' you have to wear a helmet then so be it, their choice. I suppose you could question their reasoning for this?

Posted 8 months ago #
staralfur - Member

You barely even notice a helmet when it's on, just wear the damn thing!

Posted 8 months ago #
fourbanger - Member

Nice guys...

Posted 8 months ago #
honourablegeorge - Member

Because if you split your head open, they don't want the hassle of dragging you to the hospital.

Posted 8 months ago #
FunkyDunc - Member

"I feel more comfortable ridign with people with helmets, tbh, if only for the selfish reason of not wanting to hold their brains in until the ambulance arrives if they come off."

Thats a stupid comment.

As is this

"Because if you split your head open, they don't want the hassle of dragging you to the hospital."

Posted 8 months ago #
binners - Member

Ssssshhhhh. He's helping purify the gene pool

Posted 8 months ago #
DezB - Member

I'm amazed! Roadies! Insisting on helmet wearing? Whatevernext?

Posted 8 months ago #
thomthumb - Member

did you ask them?

Posted 8 months ago #
trb - Member

Becuase if you sustained an avoidable head injury (however statistically small the chances may be) they would be the ones who had to deal with the consequences

Or maybe it's just their rules and rules is rules

Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle

Posted 8 months ago #
philconsequence - Member

Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle

Good point, are you ginger?

Posted 8 months ago #
alfabus - Member

Bit more surprised that they let you get away with it 'that time'.

Surely if they have a 'no helmet, no ride' policy, that includes the first ride, otherwise what is the point.

Dave

Posted 8 months ago #
muppetWrangler - Member

Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.

Posted 8 months ago #
greeble - Member

I've seen this happen on the cwmcarn uplift. the driver of the van lets guys use the uplift even though he has no helmet

Posted 8 months ago #
fourbanger - Member

Strangely for a pre-dawn start there was no compulsory lights rule. Free ride so nonliabilty issues I can think of. Looking for constructive comments rather than abuse for my personal choice of PPE thanks.

Posted 8 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

Nice guys...

You should see the flameing I got for suggesting a £1800 bike should be built to last longer than 15 rides.

But yea, most clubs have that policy. Either for insurance reasons or I'd imagine because they want to encourage the youngsters to wear them, which would be hindered by you trying to look all cool and edgy not wearing a helmet. Stick to the man!

Posted 8 months ago #
binners - Member

Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.

They're roadies! What were you expecting

Posted 8 months ago #
Klunk - Member

Looking for constructive comments rather than abuse for my personal choice of PPE thanks.

you do know this is STW ?

Posted 8 months ago #
davidtaylforth - Member

Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.

Perhaps. Probably better than being an unself-confident know nothing at all vegetable after you've fallen off and banged your head.

Posted 8 months ago #
FunkyDunc - Member

"Becuase if you sustained an avoidable head injury (however statistically small the chances may be) they would be the ones who had to deal with the consequences"

If you have an accident where a helemet reduces injury, then its more than likely that some other part of the body will be injured too. Or do they turn people away who are not wearing full body armour?

Posted 8 months ago #
fourbanger - Member

Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle

I do end up with a helluva bouffant to be fair. You may have a point.

Posted 8 months ago #
wwaswas - Member

Will you go again and wear a helmet next time?

Posted 8 months ago #
scruff - Member

Does the OP wear of those stupid Rapha roadie caps like wot erasure wore in the 80's (whilst watching Torchwood)?

Posted 8 months ago #
Junkyard - Member

easy their Phil I think you [ and me] would struggle on the haircut debate.

Constructive - well it is their club and it has rules [possibly due to liability insurance]. I suggest you find another one that agrees with your choice.

Posted 8 months ago #
njee20 - Member

Probably better than being an unself-confident know nothing at all vegetable after you've fallen off and banged your head.

Sir you are on form today!

This sums it up most eloquently:

its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.

Get over it.

Posted 8 months ago #
whatnobeer - Member

Pro riders are forced to wear helmets now too.

Sounds like another helmet debate to me... tbh, if you dont want to wear a lid, dont join the club, personal choice and all that....

Posted 8 months ago #
fisha - Member

As already said.

their club, their rules ( which aren't unreasonable imho )

Posted 8 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

If you have an accident where a helemet reduces injury, then its more than likely that some other part of the body will be injured too. Or do they turn people away who are not wearing full body armour?

Probably not, because form a first aid point of view it's a lot easier to deal with a broken arm than it is a broken arm and a fractured skull? An the other hand, it's a whole lot less effort if the person is dead as well.

Posted 8 months ago #
philconsequence - Member

sorry junky, i have a ginger niece now.... still have to shower a couple of times and use alcohol gel after handling her, but i'm getting more comfortable around orange people

Posted 8 months ago #

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