My daugher is doing number sequences at school and has a couple of questions in her homework that I am not sure of.

Q1. A sequence is given by the rule n-12 where n represents the term in the sequence. What is the 17th term in this sequence?

Is the answer 5?

Q2. Find the 20th term in the sequence given by the rule 2+3n where n represents the term in the sequence.

Is the answer 62?

I think I have them right but at not 100% 😕 so any help is welcome 🙂

Yes, I get the same answers

Yes.

agreed.

Thanks all 🙂

Have a gold star!!

A sequence is given by the rule n-12 where n represents the term in the sequence. What is the 17th term in this sequence?

n=17. 17-12=5.

Find the 20th term in the sequence given by the rule 2+3n where n represents the term in the sequence.

n=20. 2+3*20=62 (BODMAS).

So yes.

Steady on there Cletus, I hope you are not giving them a leg up out of the pit.

The Introduction video here is worth investing 10 mins to understand the importance of enjoying the struggle to learn.

http://www.jamesnottingham.co.uk/learning-pit/

Surely the whole point of homework is that the student does it. If you do it for her then the teacher may think that the student has an understanding of something they cannot do thus not providing them with the extra support they need to master the skill.
No offence intended.

Parent helps child with hwk and STW chastise them for it

Sometimes this place is well just this place

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No, the point of homework particularly at that age is to reinforce the learning from lessons. If that means showing / guiding / helping then that’s important. Too many parents nowadays think education is something provided by schools to their kids while they sit by and watch. It isn’t, it’s a 3-way partnership.

If after help they still are struggling, then I write in at the bottom of the homework so the teacher knows.

Year 6 is 10-11 year olds, in case some posters have missed that.

No, the point of homework particularly at that age

Is that most education studies suggest it has minimal impact on learning. So as an educator, you world be best putting effort in elsewhere in your practice. As a child, the cost of sitting (again) to do paper based, low grade admin work rather than out playing, socialising and being a child is higher than the gain.

(And if you did help them, it’s about helping them with the learning process, not the answer…)

Homework widens the gap between rich and poor. I keep suggesting to our head we scrap it to help close the PP gap……

I am aware of recent studies that homework is not the be all and end all, but my point that we are as responsible for our kids education as schools are is still valid. It might not be ‘homework’ but discussing the world around us, the places we visit, stuff on TV, etc., all counts. I even discussed the merits of a circular runway with my 13y.o this evening.

And yes, it would be far quicker and easier (and at times far less frustrating) to just do my daughter’s homework for her, but as noted it’s about helping them to know how to do it rather than just getting the answers right.

that homework is not the be all and end all, but my point that we are as responsible for our kids education as schools are is still valid

Indeed, you helping your kid woth their homework will help them so go for it.

It was a big selling point for our choice of secondary school…… at the Open evening the somewhat imposing, slightly old school head stood up and addressed the assembled and told them that if we thought dropping the kids off at school in the morning and picking up in the evening was the extent of our obligation – we were going to find the next five years under his leadership distinctly harder than that.

Just about every one of the teachers my kids have had declare it as a waste of time as the kids already undrestand the work or don’t and it fails to reinforce the learning.

Ooops, sorry, can we backtrack here a bit. My reason for posting the jamesnottingham link was not to chastise the OP, I take my hat off to Cletus for taking an interest in the kids education. The link is useful in that it illustrates what they get from the struggle of learning making them more resilient and confident in the process. Learning to enjoy the learning process when you know there is a payoff if you stick with it to the end.

Apologies if it came out as anything else.

Is that most education studies suggest it has minimal impact on learning. So as an educator, you world be best putting effort in elsewhere in your practice. As a child, the cost of sitting (again) to do paper based, low grade admin work rather than out playing, socialising and being a child is higher than the gain.

Couldn’t agree more. I have argued this so many times at work, but the pressure to give frequent, regular homework is huge.

Highland council have banned it at primary, i know four other authority’s and looking at getting rid too. Cracks in the dam…

Picking this up again….

I’m not advocating homework; particularly as noted above with studies showing it has relatively little impact on achievement and just creates extra work for teachers when they could do with less. I do however also note that some schools (and we’ve done the rounds twice in the last 3 years selecting secondaries for my two daughters) seem to use homework as a badge of their academic prowess (odd, I’d be more impressed with ‘we don’t need to set it because our lessons give you everything you need’)

But I am advocating parents taking an active role in teaching their kids too; spending time with them on both school work and general life learning that isn’t specifically aimed at the curriculum *. Sadly, I think many parents don’t want to / have time to do this with their kids and hence in some cases homework is as much of use to parents to force them to take a role than it is for the kids. Odd, I know, but a measure of the world today.

* example was me talking to my eldest about her options, from which she said she likes opinion/argument based subjects like history rather than science. So we talked about why science isn’t always about facts, illustrated with the circular runway from yesterday – why might it be better, why might it be worse? I don’t think she’s any likelier to choose science as an option in Y9 but at least she now knows about catapult/arrester systems, side loads in landing gear, importance of wind direction, etc., and is slightly smarter as a result.

Christ, I’m a boring dad……

You are spot on theotherjonv – great parental engagement is vital, and does work…

I also meet a few academies who use the number of hours worked in school and homework as a badge of honour, and I meet a few parents who also use it to do MOAR….in our sons school we had complaints as there was no homework over Christmas, and a couple of parents wanted a couple of hours a day of homework to be set!

With my 8yo daughter I take the view that homework is like sessioning a tricky descent – the more you practice stuff, the better you get at it and the quicker you can apply what you’ve learnt when it crops up unexpectedly. It might not always be fun or exciting but practice pays dividends (there are also parrells with smashing your head against a tree).

I don’t think she’s any likelier to choose science as an option

Its compulsory anyway 😉

I meant the triple science option as opposed to combined science which is as you say compulsory.

As our school often reminds us ‘homework for primary age children is not compulsory’.

Then give them it anyway.

🙁

I meant the triple science option as opposed to combined science which is as you say compulsory.

Many schools don’t give the option: top set do triple and the rest do double.

I’m slightly torn on homework. I suspect that it, like grammar schools, helps those who don’t need the help and so further entrenches privilege.

I set work for outside lessons for my (A level) students, but they have enough time free study periods during the 9am to 4:10 College day that they should be able to complete it in College time and so be free to spend their evenings and weekends doing wholesome outdoor activities*.

*working too many hours in a badly paid job, watching Netflix, drinking too much, and playing FIFA.

Holy shit! Homework is given to primary school kids? I’ve got a lot to learn for when my son starts. I take it that milk and a nap has now gone too. That just seems wrong though in my opinion. Kids at that age seem to learn best through play. Only my opinion before anyone shoots me down

@johndoh the parents want the kids to have homework. Study outside school definitely helps.

I’m slightly torn on homework. I suspect that it, like grammar schools, helps those who don’t need the help and so further entrenches privilege.

Extra study pushes kids further. Extra effort is rewarded by extra achievement.

Holy shit! Homework is given to primary school kids? I’ve got a lot to learn for when my son starts.

My daughter is in reception and gets two lots of homework a week.

Wow – was not expecting this reaction.

I posted the question as I genuinely was not certain I had understood the questions and I wanted to make sure I did before trying to help my daughter.

I did not do the homework for her – we worked together and I (hope) made sure she understood the concepts rather than giving her the answer.

The learning pit thing was interesting – thanks clint.

I actually enjoy helping my daughter with her homework and it allows me to see what type of work she is doing and what she struggles with. Most often it is a case of her wanting me to check what she has already completed. She is quite diligent in doing her homework – far more so than I was.

Thanks again to those that contributed.

Kids at that age seem to learn best through play.

Many teachers think exactly the same and, interestingly, the one parent in my girls’ year at school that opts not to allow her daughter do homework is an ex-teacher.

And having twins I get an interesting insight – one of our girls is happy doing homework and when something really interests her, she will spend much more time/effort than is required to do something amazing (she did some amazing Pointillist Art least year which really stood out). Our other daughter hates homework and constantly asks why she has to do it, saying she doesn’t want to do more school work after she has finished school.

Conversely, the daughter that doesn’t like homework is much more ‘aware’ of herself and those around her, questions more, befriends people more readily and is more socially adept.

My daughter is in reception and gets two lots of homework a week

😯 what does it consist of? Genuinely curious.

Extra study educated parents push their kids further. Extra effort is rewarded by extra achievement.