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  • Wiggins v Ennis!!
  • weeksy
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    JCL – Member
    Anything that happens in a stadium is tiddlywinks compared to what Wiggo did for three weeks across France in July. If you don’t know that you’re not a cyclist.

    Which sums up about 90% of the voting public.

    jota180
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    Am I missing something, I knowshes theface of the olympics, and its a hard earned medal, but what makes it any better than Wiggin’s, Farrar’s, the rowers etc…????

    Yup – it’s about personality not achievement- the clue is in the title

    beej
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    BBC News last night – big lead story on the athletics, followed by the rowing. Then came Syria, a murder story and as an aside at the end… the cycling.

    People only care about cycling because we are winning things. If we are winning in other areas, cycling drops down the list.

    How may of the 6 million people who applied for velodrome tickets (apparently) are the same people who complain cyclists shouldn’t be on the roads? A fair few I’d imagine.

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    Ro5ey
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    I say give it to Ennis.

    Only on the basis that…

    If Wiggo is not that bother by a knighthood, he probably couldn’t give a monkeys about SPOFTY.

    anokdale
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    If Wiggo is ambivalent to public recognition someone should have a word with him, may be the messiah himself Brailsford, the opportunity for not just cycling but British sport as a whole should be capitalised on by the greats such as Wiggins and Co. The UK should nail home these successes. FFS we are third in the medals tables and we have a population of only 60 million, look at the those in our wake.

    mtbmatt
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    Wiggins has achieved a string of results this year that no cyclist has ever achieved before and may never be matched in the future.

    But cycling is still a minority sport, general will see his Olympic Gold but might not know about the TdF let alone the Dauphine, Paris-Nice, Romandie and the World Champs is yet to come.

    Ennis is amazing, to be able to compete so highly in 7 events is astonishing. She will win the SPOTY simply because she has more media coverage and at the end of the day, thats all that really counts.

    shotsaway
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    Ennis won the 800m event and the gold in front of a television audience of millions last night. When Wiggins won the TDF and then the TT gold, it was in the middle of the afternoon, when the viewing figures would have been substantially less.

    When it comes to voting, Mrs Edna Rowbottom from Eastbourne will only remember the Saturday night prime time “Ennis” moment and therefore the majority of the public will probably vote for that moment!

    Wiggins achievements this year have been phenomenal but the public won’t remember those, when it comes to voting.

    I also also think that if Murray beats Federer, then he would then pick up a big chuck of the public vote. Well finishing as Wimbledon runner up and then winning an Olympic gold, is more of an accomplishment that winning the TDF and then a gold 😉

    Edited bit: I’m guessing Cav won last year, as no other sports person won anything of significance?

    mudshark
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    Yeah most people will vote on what got them most involved, watching the athletics last night was pretty special. I’d probably consider voting for her if she’d broken the world record – or even come close.

    mooman
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    Kona TC – Member
    All depends if celebrity rules over personality

    Agreed.
    Wiggins would win if personality was the deciding factor.
    His acceptance speech would most probably be sarcasm to his new celebrity too.

    loum
    Free Member

    When it comes to voting, Mrs Edna Rowbottom from Eastbourne will only remember the Saturday night prime time “Ennis” moment and therefore the majority of the public will probably vote for that moment!

    Also, she’ll pick up the vote of people with experience of both athletics and cycling who recognise her sporting achievement, Olympic gold in the top multisport event.
    She’s getting up there with Denise Lewis and Daley Thomson for athletic achievement, and coped superbly with a lot more pressure than anyone else for a long time.
    She’s a genuine contender due to both sporting achievement, and shining personality.
    Anyone belittling her as a Saturday night TV celebrity is being incredibly small minded.

    Wiggins didn’t help himself with his pissed up interviews, there’s plenty of people who think of him as a great cyclist but a bit of a weirdo. Besides, Wiggins will deservedly win the team award with Sky for the TdF. And possibly the individual award next year, with another go in that annual foreign bike race 😉

    zokes
    Free Member

    But cycling is still a minority sport

    I see far more people cycling each day than I do heptathaloning…

    ScottChegg
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    But cycling is still a minority sport…

    I would have a bet that more people ride a bike than throw a javelin. Or put the shot.

    MussEd
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    put the shot

    ….well said that man, well said….

    Until Wiggins has his pus on on washing uo liquid bottles and posters for crisps and all that palaver, he’s got no chance. But does he care? doubtful, do I? No. It’s all good though..

    druidh
    Free Member

    Disappointed that Ennis isn’t going for the hurdles given she had such a good time in the Heptathlon heat. Does that show a lack of team commitment?

    ScottChegg
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    I think JEnnis can say she’s done plenty enough for Team GB.

    And as for Sir Brad, I think he shows everytime he opens his gob that he has more personality than all the rest of the Corporate whores put together.

    He hope he does advertise something; he should make some good money for his efforts now.

    By the look of his post-TT shots, Immac would be a good fit.

    Blackhound
    Full Member

    I suspect it will be a close call with Jess Ennis probably winning it. She has been on billboards everywhere for the last couple of years and has won the kind of event most people couldn’t do. She looks great and always appears positive.

    Both would be deserving.

    atlaz
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    no one british has one the T d F

    That’s probably a fair reason alone

    No one has won the Olympic TT and the TdF in the same year

    I’ve heard this one bandied around a lot. I don’t think the two things are linked except for the fact TT specialists are not usually GC contenders. It’s an achievement, don’t get me wrong but it definitely feels like one of those American-sports made up statistics (“He’s the pitcher with the most wins on Tuesdays” sort of thing).

    neninja
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    Throw Ben Ainslie into that mixing pot now too as the greatest ever sailing Olympian.

    Sports Personality of the Year is impossible to call this year. If Mo Farrah wins the 5000m too then he’ll be in the mix.

    stevenmenmuir
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    Has to be Andy Murray now. If only he’d show the English some love.

    mboy
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    Loving the irony that this year, the entire short list of 10 will probably all be deserving of the SPOTY title in their own right in a non olympic year. The fact that Ryan Giggs won it in 2010, after Jenson Button won the F1 crown from out of nowhere, goes to show the ridiculous nature sometimes the public posses.

    I’ll be voting for Brad, but if any other successful Olympian gets it, I won’t be too disappointed.

    aracer
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    “No one has won the Olympic TT and the TdF in the same year”
    I’ve heard this one bandied around a lot. I don’t think the two things are linked except for the fact TT specialists are not usually GC contenders. It’s an achievement, don’t get me wrong but it definitely feels like one of those American-sports made up statistics (“He’s the pitcher with the most wins on Tuesdays” sort of thing).

    Actually TT specialists quite often are GC contenders – hence Big Mig won the Olympic TT in ’96, though he didn’t win the TdF that year. The 2000 Olympic TT podium had Ullrich and Armstrong in Silver and Bronze – both of those won both long TTs in the TdF, so you can describe them as TT specialists just as much as Wiggo. However none of those managed to win the Olympic TT in the year they won the Tour (Big Mig is the only other TdF winner who’s ever won it), showing that it is a significant achievement to manage to hold the form – admittedly Wiggo has had to hold form for rather shorter time.

    Of course Wiggo is also the first rider to win Paris Nice, the Tour of Romandie and the Dauphine in the same year (or perm 2 of those and the TdF for other significant accomplishments) – though the non-cycling public probably haven’t heard of any of those.

    Edric64
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    Has to be Andy Murray now. If only he’d show the English some love.

    Federer played like it was some Mickey Mouse tournament with no prize money ..hang on …………

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