It did have horrid conti tyres.
You don't think it's maybe the tyres rather than the bike that made it feel nervous downhill? And that it would affect any bike? I despair at they're continuing to spec OEM contis but their argument is that most owners fit what they want anyway.
It was never a problem when I got my Five as the dealer was happy to swap them out. Gyro was quickly sorted with a Hans Dampf/Nobby Nic but I guess it should come specced with better.
I think there's two sides to Orange, I think the frames are great and I'm comfortable with the value and I think the frame weights are competitive (light even) for what they do. Despite perceptions, whenever I get on one, it always feels like an inconvenient truth when it comes to more sophisticated designs. I'm not saying they're magic or anything, but I very rarely find other bikes to be any funner, faster, as responsive or more balanced to ride than an Orange.
However, the full builds highlight a small company struggling to match big gun suppliers. But selling full bikes in authorised dealers is a key part of their strategy and it works for them. Personally I'd always build a frame up though…
I also think they pedal brilliantly if your technique is good and you're fit enough – the chain growth can really help if you work with it.