Would have been very interesting had his brother not crashed out earlier in the tour! And I'm sure you're right - Andy will win the tour in the future.
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Why do the British media and STW have it in for Contador?
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I think not having Frank there has given him some freedom. Last year on Mt Ventoux he could of attacked but kept back for Frank.
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this'll be the same contador who got a drugs related ban then? he should have waited for shleck, once a cheat always a cheat, i hope Andy has the strenght and can channel his anger into attacking tomorrow
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No, Astana was banned due to Vinoukorov (sp) doping, but not Contador.
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Usted trabaja para quién? WADA, no es que un cacharro destrozado viejo ruso? No, no te Denis ...
(You work for who? WADA, isn't that an old wrecked Russian banger? No, not you Denis...)Brilliant - still chuckling....
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13th, the person who "caught" him from Astana before the mechanical, was Vino lad.
Ah, my mistake.
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Schleck is racing more than contador now, having lost time to Sanchez and menchov in the last two days, all the games yesterday may come back to haunt him.
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still, makes for a fascinating race, much better than some of lances 5 minute+ years
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NEWS FLASH: Astana team bus raided after stage 15. Found 9 empty bodies all signs of human life removed. each body without a soul.
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who was tha tall bald danish cheat, who had to take drugs to beat big mig??
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who was tha tall bald danish cheat, who had to take drugs to beat big mig??
Rasmussen Ex mountain biker as well!
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no, not that one.....the other one.
think he is a team manager now........... Posted 1 year ago # -
Bjarne Riis.
Mr 60% as he used to be called due to the % of red blood cells in his blood, artificially boosted by EPO. It's OK, he's now Directeur Sportif of Saxo Bank so can't do any harm...oh.Posted 1 year ago # -
Saxo Banks manager
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Rocketdog i completely agree. Best tour for years
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crazy legs..........oh indeedy.........
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Cos he's a plick and has been for a long time. Sportsmen such as Ullrich, Armstrong, Indurain and (maybe) Cancellera are not as prevalent as they were?
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if he hadn't have faffed around so long trying to get the chain back on, it wouldn't have made much difference!
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2days lesson kids..dont buy cheap chains
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It would have made a difference, shleck was always going to lose a little bit of time on the descents to contador. If he had managed to attack against contador fairly then he might have been able to open a gap.
I'm hoping shleck does him properly tomorrowPosted 1 year ago # -
If Shleck does win tomorrow, he's going to lose big in the final time trial, as he really can't cut it.
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So, from all this, and having a look on Wiki etc, it appears that the hatred of Contador is pretty much unfounded really. He's not a 'cheat', in as much as he's not tested positive for any banned substance yet, same as most of the other riders I'd presume, including Schleck. He has actually shown good sportsmanship in the past, and today's 'controversy' seems to be because he was perceived to have attacked when another man was 'down'. Which isn't really all that clear. Irrelevant anyway, considering what's at stake. I wouldn't be very sporting when millions of pounds of sponsorship etc were at stake, I don't think. It's his job to win.
As for the not talking English bit; the British/English-speaking media does seem to favour those sportsmen who can give a good interview for English-speaking audiences, fair enough. Not really a good reason to dislike someone though.
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true, he is going to have to go bonkers at some point to make a big enough gap
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2days lesson kids..dont buy cheap chains
I didn't see a broken chain thoughPosted 1 year ago # -
I don't "hate" Contador, but I'm profoundly suspicious of him. That's prejudice, of course. But those climbs up to Verbier and Andorra last year reminded me of Ricardo Ricco the day he got busted. It makes me slightly queasy to watch it. And I'm so over "I've never tested positive".
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Stage 2: Schleck goes down, everyone has to wait for him (although not for VdV who is even further back)
Stage 3: Schleck's brother goes down, everyone else gets stuck behind the crash, Schleck waits for no-one
Stage 15: Schleck bungles a gear change, and...karmaPosted 1 year ago # -
rusty, that is a genius post !!!!
fwiw I thought he should have soft pedalled for 10s just enough time for him to get off the bike and put the chain on - he had to put it back on twice which makes me think that he'll have to live with the time gap and the fact that he won't get the mj back
however he wouldn't have been dropped on the descent if he was with contador at the top, the reason contador pulled away coming down was that he was with a bigger group than schleck (AS had 2 other riders with him who just followed) and bertie's group had the other top 5 GC contenders who wanted to put time into Andy, and who could ride strong and descend well
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This sportsmanship thing about mechicnal problems only exists in endurance events. In every other form of racing no one cares if you have a mechincal its just tough titties on you.
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The loss of the MJ is so so. In the end if the GC is won by Bert over Andy by 38secs or less then today was an issue. However with the next few days and the TT i think it will swing one way or the other by a larger margin so be irrelevant.
Andy having to push a bit harder today effects him but as Sean Kelly said all the main GC contenders were up there pushing hard Andy to catch up, Bert, Menchov etc to put time into Andy.
Andy is now 8 sec behind not 8 minutes so bad sportsmanship or ignorance from Bert, Schleck is still well up in the running and iots not over yet.
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Andy went on the attack...what would have happened if his chain stayed on, and he dropped Contador and made it to the top 30 secs up, and on his own?
He would have been caught by the following pack on the run-in.
Andy seems like a really nice guy, but nice guys don't often win the TDF.
That Irish charmer Roach is clearly the exception.Posted 1 year ago # -
Of course, the mudslinging about Contador's involvement in Puerta is kind of selective given the money the Schlecks paid to a doctor for "training advice" when said doctor is a know purveyor of dope?
Not a massive fan of Contador, but there's at least as much evidence that Schleck is a cheating weasel as well, and as someone's already pointed out, was in yellow due to his taking advantage of an earlier crash which held up Contador in stage 2.
As for all the "Contador's ruined the Tour for me" whiners - man up.
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there's at least as much evidence that Schleck is a cheating weasel as well,
I think it's pretty much a given that there are plenty of cheating weasels still riding, whether they're 'clean' now or not. Personally I think it should be lifetime bans - take Vin's inability to express regret at doping - it drives me up the wall, doesn't do the sport any good at all to have him there.
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A lot of folk don't seem to understand the problem is attaching the yellow jersey in that manner in the third week of the tour. The crash in week one is irrelevant.
And bringing doping into it just fugs the issue. That's irrelevant in this thread - but of course not irrelevant to the sport or the race.
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He does come over a bit cocky and full of himself with all that fingerbang, odd haircut, and aloofness stuff. But he's turned that down this year. And not talking English makes it worse.
The thing about the chain is, if Contador beats Schleck by less than 30 seconds by Paris then it will be 'he only won because......'. So he should of waited. I don't believe him when he said he didn't realize abbout the chain.
However, it does not matter because the gap will be more than 30 seconds in the end.
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the gap will be more than 30 seconds in the end
The trouble is the "might have beens". If that goal against Germany had been allowed England would have won, if Schleck had gone into the last time trial in yellow he'd have given the performance of a lifetime etc.
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