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Who's to blame? Bike user or bike Mechanic?
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Anyone I know that's not a 'biker' and buys a bike with Q/R I always ask if they know how to use it, Q/R that is. Most treat it like a big single sided wing nut.
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No consensus here, but I bet the rider will check on the next ride
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How about having a chat with the LBS, trying to get the broken spokes fixed for free and walking away with lesson learnt from both sides?
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I don't think he will go back...
Thing is, it never showed any probs till he was going uphill and the wheel was not completely in- 3-5mm off?
He did drive home using his cycle carrier and then cycled to my house and off we went to meet the rest but swears he never touched it.
I've checked it over for him before we set off and all seems ok and LBS sorted the spokes pretty quick.
I'm popping round to check it for him but doubt he will moan to bikeshop and moan about me if something goes wrong.
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It's a bit of both, but mainly the user. Firstly the shop has provided a service that does not meet basic expectations, however the user should also check their equipment prior to use.
Simple way of looking at it is:
'A person has new tyres fitted to their car, the tyre fitters explain that the correct pressures are in said tyres and the nuts have been done up, but that also the user should check the nuts after say 50 miles and also check tyre pressures weekly'.
Driver is involved in RTC where they skid into the back of another vehicle, the police will check the tyre pressures as part of their investigation, if found to be outside of acceptable limits - the drive can be found negligent and charged with "driving without due car and attention"
The tyre fitter has nothing to do with it.
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In your example you don't say what time has elapsed between the repair and the accident.
If the driver pulled out of the garage and collided with someone at the next junction because the work had not been completed properly and was the cause. Then the insurance claim for repair would be against the garage. Although the driver may well also face a charge of driving an unroadworthy vehicle.
If the collision happened three weeks / 500-miles later then the garage wouldn't have any liability.
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I should've included "At a later date the driver is.........."
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Sanity / Tazzy: I saw Ed Allen Johnson (sp?) busking in York last weekend. Gave him a quid for Vagabonds
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I think in this case even a well-meaning mechanic is going to be reluctant to fess up to a mistake because of the length of time/opportunities for it to have come loose since it left his hands. But if this happened while pedalling away from the shop then it'd be a no brainer.
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Did the chain go down the back of the cassette I.e between it and the spokes?
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Sanity / Tazzy: I saw Ed Allen Johnson (sp?) busking in York last weekend. Gave him a quid for Vagabonds
**** me is he still busking? last time I saw him was some awful promotion for stuff he was doing with his wife/partner which was really rather poor, nice violin screechy nasal voice
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I wouldn't mind betting that if you asked on here how a QR should be correctly used then you'd get several differing opinions on how exactly they should be done up. So, if the collective experts of STW cannot agree on correct usage of QRs then it is reasonable for a 'newbie' or mechanically inept person to not know.
Mechanic at error IMO (but, a professional (ie paid) guide would make checking the bikes over part of the procedure before a group ride which would have picked up the problem before the ride started).Posted 2 years ago # -
i had a hope front disc installed by a lbs, i could not order a left hand pull one from hope myself. it had to be through a lbs in wgc.
rode the bike home, brake rub; caliper was not tightened at all, finger tight. said bike had a £125 front wheel, £200 pace rigids, lu cky it did not foul up.
said wgc lbs also installed pace forks with a hope headset. i had ordered the forks from pace as factory seconds(cosmetic marks to crown). all delivered in box mint. forks came back with peg for stopping wheel drop out broken off and a rushed payment........
same lbs has lost its dealership for special...... bikes so i hear.
and you wonder why the internet bike shops are doing so well...............
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come again?
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Ironically for the first time ever I had a rear q/r come loose last night, thought it was bearing. Never since I started riding in Black and White has that ever happened.
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my point is that supposedley good bike shops are failing in service to quite an alarming degree
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@Hamish - thats why I was organising as I can fix most things that go bang and get the beginners home at least.
As psling said +1
It is a must before every ride to check all q/r's, bars/headset and brakes. Common sense really.
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