mboy - would be nice to have some sort of evidence to back up your comments; or shall I just use you as a reference in future related discussions?
I'm out and about and on my mobile at the mo, but I've linked to a scientific report giving evidence of everything I've stated regarding the (relative lack of) benefit of aero wheels before. I'll try and find it again later and post the link again.
Most were on road bikes, some with aero bars (usually without elbow pads)...
Many were yeah. Some started off on TT bikes then swapped to road bikes as it got steeper! The TT in the tour of California (if anyone watched it) was more of the same madness, TT bikes with MTB cassettes and lightweight low section wheels!
My old CX bike with road tyres on and the stem flipped was barely any slower than my proper racy road bike. The proper road bike always felt much faster though...
There's a big difference between "feels" faster and "is" faster, and this just proves it. A CX bike on road tyres is probably 99% as fast as a road bike with the same rider on board. Remember guys, feel is subjective, and everyone has a different opinion on feel, but the clocks don't lie!
As for which superfast frame.....most of the Elite riders bikes seem quite quick to me
This is ultimately the point... It's ALL about the rider, not the bike!
I bought the bike 15 months ago not knowing much at all about road bike and only based on great magazine and online reviews. Guess I landed lucky then with the frame.
You did your research... Some reviews can be biased, but if you read 5 different reviews on the same product, and 4 of them say its a superb bit of kit, chances are it will be superb. Less lucky, more informed I'd say.
They still look damn good though
Oh I'm not denying that! A nice set of deep section rims can really make a bike look amazing! And that is mainly why they sell so well to amateurs... No bad thing in itself of course, just buy a set expecting a huge performance gain and you'll be disappointed.