Leaving litter
Er... no. I've never left litter. I would suspect the vast majority on here would not litter. What sort of litter do you leave? Busted tubes? Plastic bottles?
Leaving litter
Er... no. I've never left litter. I would suspect the vast majority on here would not litter. What sort of litter do you leave? Busted tubes? Plastic bottles?
deanfbm
How can you justify building jumps and ramps on land you do not ownand without the landowners permission?
I certainly have permission to use the trails I do - its called the land reform act!
In England you have the right to ride on many paths.
Who says where the line is drawn between recreational use of the land and using the land in an inappropriate manner?
Take nothing but photographs, leave nothing but footprints ( tyre tracks) is a reasonable maxim
Sweet. There's nothing I like more than finding out about someones local well kept spot and going there to case all the jumps and skid through the corners.
How can you justify building jumps and ramps on land you do not ownand without the landowners permission?
What if you do have the landowners permission?
The trails I used to build at, we had permission. Thankfully we kept them quiet and only invited people who we knew.
Occassionally people who we didnt know would find them and ride them, most were good riders. Some were not, I had to tell a mtber to stop doing phat skids with his knobbly tires, as he was damaging the features!
If you have the landowners permission then its fine.
Couple of points.........
1) There's a BMX track 1/2 mile away on lower earley way
2) There's a a multitude of better "secret spots" nearby, must try harder next time
Anyway, I thought everyone knew about cheeky trails, if you find them, keep quiet about it, local group explicitly said don't post helemetcam footage or GPS tracks of rides as the FC wont tolerate the publicity. So by shareing the secret spot, it becomes not so secret, then gets flattened, and you, the guys who built it, and anyone else who might have stumbled accross it can't ride anymore. It's just common sense.
yunki - Memberactual real life local fanatical trailbuilding crews post a gazillion photo's and vid's on facebook and youtube and moredirt and pinkbike every day of the week and flippin well love it.
TandemJeremy, who do illegal trailbuilders have to justify themselves to?
TandemJeremy - Member
How can you justify building jumps and ramps on land you do not ownand without the landowners permission?I certainly have permission to use the trails I do - its called the land reform act!
No you have the legal right, the landowner might be a MTB hateing tory voter who would never in a million years give his permission, however the big government has decided to allow you the legal right to ride accross his land.
If they built them it's entirely up to them to share if they choose.
to be honest.. I think the OP is being more than a bit thoughtless.. loose lips sink ships and all that.. I was just stirring..
the first rule of fight club...
All abat de respeck innit?
We've got some 'secret trails' (i.e. everyone local knows about them, people not local wouldn't be interested) just a couple of hundred yards from our house. No idea who originally did the 'landscaping', one person, one crew, or just people doing it bit by bit over years for the love of the sport. I know that when we go there we have a tidy up and prune, repair berms and jumps as needed, and not just for 'our' benefit (whoever 'we' are), but for all riders who would enjoy the tracks.
I came across this interesting post today, with some very interesting views. You can clearly see who respects trail builders and who just, like someone mentioned earlier, ' goes down to their local area (The lookout) and never digs, or helps out.
I build the trails in Fox Hill along with some great guys. Its taken us around 3 years to build them to the standard that they are. We dig in the rain and till it gets dark - not my favorite but we reap the rewards when the summer comes around.
The land is not ours, and in a ideal world we would have our own land :/ We are making the most of our surroundings, giving the younger generation an alternative option to hanging out on street corners..
If you want to come down and ride, your more than welcome. However we would ask for you to help us dig as well.
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