Decided my alpitude is way too much for what I need so I am planning on spacing down my revs to 120mm and basically looking for an alternative to a Cotic soul but more xc focussed than long travel and looking to run 100-120mm forks. Also wanted something around the same weight as the soul, doesn’t have to be steel although I loved the feel of the r853. Seen an old 2001 GT zaskar on pb but was thinking it might not handle the fork at 120mm so well, any suggestions??

A soul!?

why would you want an alternative to a soul?

Whippet ? Nice bike in carbon flavour but possibly a bit long and low for most users.

Ti 456 Evo is turning out to be a great XC/trail bike with 105mm forks. Very addictive frame to ride.

Space your Revs down to 120mm, and ride the Alpitude.

Unless you go Alu/Carbon/Ti you’re only going to be saving a 1lb by buying a Soul.

Or, what about a 456Ti?

Decided my alpitude is way too much for what I need

Don’t get this TBH, why would swap a good reasonably light frame for one less capable? br has it, space down the revs and ride the alptitude

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/genesis-core-frame-and-bits-build-yourself-a-cheap-fun-hardtail?replies=2#post-4748860

Maybe just what you are looking for? Designed for 100 – 120 forks, same geom as a soul?

The alpitude is designed around a 140mm fork which is too much travel on a hard tail for me, that’s why I was looking to go for something more xc trail focussed than all mountain/alpine. If the alpitude will ride nicely at 100-120mm for xc duties then I’ll give that a try.

Soul is pricey so just wanted to see what alternatives there are as I’m not interested in a 140mm hard tail all I need is 120mm Max.

456 sounds good but don’t wanna spend ti money, what about carbon 456 for xc?

Look at a kinesis xc120. It’s a wonderful frame and cheap.

I went the other way. Sold my very capable and pretty lightweight rock lobster frame for a soul. The rl was more sprightly, pingy and fast for xc. Great on south downs. It was a fair bit lighter than my soul build which has dropper on and weighs 27lb, so reckon it was 25lb max.

Shameless plug allowed?… http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-one-one-whippet-carbon-frame-18-and-avidshimano-brakes

Cotic…..Solaris….end of! 🙂

Hello little boy. Why go hardtail why not try a full sus fame?? You could pick up a giant anthemx frame I’m sure for something like £350 that will take a 120 fork and there light and should help that old back of yours way more than a hardy tail.
Bats.

Here you go.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-one-one-whippet-carbon-frame-18-and-avidshimano-brakes

i got a kinesis maxlight xc pro. climbs like a goat and a good price too.