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What pickup - Ford Ranger or Isuzu Denver

43 posts & 23 voices | Started 5 months ago by geoffj | Latest reply from derekrides

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geoffj - Member

I'm missing my van

I've inherited the passat estate (Mrs J got a new car), but I miss the versatility of the van.
I'm doing more tree / firewood jobs which the pickup would be perfect for, plus I can get 5 proper seats in one of the double cab models.

I don't want another van either - time for something different.

Would probably be looking at a 2 year old ish model of either and do about 6k per year.

I believe the Ford is cheaper on parts / servicing, but the Isuzu just looks a but smarter.

Anyone got one of these?

Posted 5 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

I own a Ranger Thunder and have driven (years ago) and been in a few Isuzu's.

The Isuzu is horrible and cheap IMHO and that isn't being biased. The Ranger has been rock solid and when I get a new truck next year it will be the 2012 version, based on actually seeing/driving one of course. If not, then a VW Amarok, or maybe a 2nd hand Navara.

Anything but an Isuzu.

Posted 5 months ago #
DickBarton - Member

I thought they were the same vehicle...will need to have a nosey at them...I thought it was like the previous model Citroen Berlingo and Peugeot Partner - same vehicle just different inner finishings...

Posted 5 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

That's the Mazda B250 Dick

Posted 5 months ago #
langy - Member

Every other person drives a "Ute" down here in Aus - 2/3 if you're a tradie. They are both low down the list of most popular - looked at a Toyota? Or Mitsubishi? Both sturdier options. Toyota should be comparable on the parts/service stuff too.

Bear in mind the double cab means only half a tray - you may end up towing a trailer still if you need a full size load on - though if you're using an Estate, then it'll seem like heaven regardless.

Posted 5 months ago #
geoffj - Member

Thanks folks. The Amarok looks very nice. More to think about.

Posted 5 months ago #
WorldClassAccident - Member

I have an Isuzu TF which is the same thing a couple of model generations ago I think.

It is basic, reasonably uncomfortable and has a big turning circle. However all kids who have been in it think it is great because it bounces around like a truck and I let them dance on the roof at the big Bike Bash.

If you need to use something as a regular tool I would go for something less industrial. Having said that, other than a knackered alternator, nothing has gone wrong and it always just works. Only just room for bikes longways on the back though.

Posted 5 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

langy - Member

Every other person drives a "Ute" down here in Aus - 2/3 if you're a tradie. They are both low down the list of most popular - looked at a Toyota? Or Mitsubishi? Both sturdier options. Toyota should be comparable on the parts/service stuff too.

Youre having a laugh aren't you? Mitsubishi's - the older ones are slow and thirsty, the new ones are for hairdressers. A mate had the newer Animal version and it was a pile of crap - smallest loadbay too, until they lengthened it (and made it even uglier) a year or two ago. Toyotas are OK though.

Posted 5 months ago #
mcmoonter - Member

Have you ever considered a trailer? I used to run a pick up, and now find a trailer much more versatile.

Posted 4 months ago #
MadBillMcMad - Member

Following from my brother's experience I would never get a Ford Ranger.

He has gone through 4 clutches, admittedly all changed under warranty but not what you want.

don't muck about & get a hilux.

Posted 4 months ago #
jam bo - Member

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR is the only person I've ever known say a good word about them.

our works one is nothing but trouble and horrible to drive.

Posted 4 months ago #
molgrips - Member

That's the Mazda B250 Dick

No need for the abuse!

Posted 4 months ago #
cozz - Member

ive got a ranger, as have 3 of my mates, we all use / work them and colelcltively have had no real probs

Although Ive had a few troopers and like isuzu the pickups are having problems if you speak to owners

Ranger wins easy, one of the most reliable and under rated pick ups around

Posted 4 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

Mine has 73k on the clock and in the two years I have owned it (had 2.5k on when I bought it) the only thing to fail was a frozen fuel filter and that was hardly the trucks fault. Other than that I've just had cambelt done, its had one set of tyres, one set of brake pads and routine servicing.

Posted 4 months ago #
geoffj - Member

After test driving a couple of different trucks and speaking to my mechanic, I've gone for a ranger. Drove it back from Aberdeenshire over Glenshee today in the glorious sunshine and impressed so far.
Now it's time to get the caravan

Posted 3 months ago #
chris23 - Member

For gods sake avoid the L200, just spent the last 4 days driving one in the name of work. It is the first thing I have driven that makes my Discovery 2 feel quick.
Like the other posts say, do it right get a Hilux. We also have these at work, they can drag any thing we throw at or in them.
Or if you're hard as nails get a high cap 130 inch defender pick up.

Posted 3 months ago #
chewkw - Member

Get the Hilux!

Posted 3 months ago #
trail_rat - Member

Did you have e basic 130bhp l200 i find it hard to believe the 160 or the 180 bhp model could be slower than a disco 2

They were on my list of vehicles to replace the van with - but so is a revamped series 2a haha ..... Speed has never featured highly on my list !

Ability to tow 2 tonnes is high up though !

You made correct choice with ranger vs the denver though !

Posted 3 months ago #
Zedsdead - Member

Volvo and a trailer if you need it.

NEXT!

Posted 3 months ago #
Fletcher - Member

Like others have said get a Hilux. I love mine.

Posted 3 months ago #
trail_rat - Member

Haha thatll be why we towed a transit van into an event recently with a very sorted v8 rangey on his trailer

Im sure he felt a little foolish at that one

A car plus trailer doesnt always suit the need .....

Posted 3 months ago #
buttercup - Member

Ford Rangers are dying out after next year. The name is, anyway. Being replaced with the 150. But all new mazda pick ups are actually ford trucks.
I have always been partial to the Mazda pick ups, really.

Posted 3 months ago #
derekrides - Member

I drove the Chevy version of the Isuzu for five years, before that I had an L200 and now use the VW Amarok which is superior to both.

But you won't be getting a two year old, so next best would be the Toyota Hilux for comfort and reliability, next down is the Nissan Navarra, then the Colorado/Denver whatever GM badge you choose, I actually think the L200 is a better ride than them if you get it chipped and or re mapped.

I love trucks, have driven them all at one time or another and rent them when travelling.

Er wouldn't be seen dead in a Ford, they're almost as bad in trucks as Volvo are to cars, except in the States, those F150's are OK but guzzle gas so useless this side of the pond.

Posted 3 months ago #
buttercup - Member

Derek, have you ever owned a Volvo?

Posted 3 months ago #
derekrides - Member

Volvo drivers are/were responsible for more bike deaths than any other vehicle, so no other than once when forced to rent one by an errant employee, since terminated, having exposed me to the life-force and charisma sucking action of said brand over a period of three days in the fatherland some time back, no, I don't nor ever will drive a Volvo, I've even had it written in my will not to engage a Funeral service that uses them.

Posted 3 months ago #
trail_rat - Member

Haha reminds me of a story

Chap at work had uaz ( russian 4x4)

Sales dude gets a new ranger as in splitting new and bragging about it and slating the scrappy old uaz saying its a piece of crap and the ranger would outperform it no end

One lunch time the uaz and the ranger were liked up via a big sling pointing opposite ways

The uaz stalled as the signal was given . Ranger just dumped his clutch and started to wheelspin on the dirt ........ Uaz calmly restarted then drove out the yard pulling a wheelspinning ford ranger behind like it was on a sunday drive

Ranger went back to the garage with **** axels and gear box ...... A couple weeks later

Ok maybe not fair as uaz weighs double a ranger at a guess and weight all round not a pickup back but funny none the less !

Posted 3 months ago #
chris23 - Member

Trail rat

It was the top spec 57 plate Warrior L200. It was utter Poo

Posted 3 months ago #
timber - Member

Too late to say now, but a lot of the other firewood guys around here run super-cab variants as they look a bit more generous - so generally ford or nissan by default.

We run a Defender 130 as we are often working axle deep, but tow for fire wood as the back is full of ~~crap~~ useful stuff.

Posted 3 months ago #
buttercup - Member

I hate to be splitting hairs here, but I don't think amounting cyclist deaths mean it is a faulty machine. Just saying.
American?

Posted 3 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

Jeez - some crap being spouted on this thread....

buttercup - Member

Ford Rangers are dying out after next year. The name is, anyway. Being replaced with the 150

The 2012 Ford Ranger

Like the other posts say, do it right get a Hilux. We also have these at work, they can drag any thing we throw at or in them.

Not sure about the top spec 3.0l Hilux, but the 2.5l version has the lowest towing capacity of just about any pick-up on the market.

chris23 - Member

Trail rat

It was the top spec 57 plate Warrior L200. It was utter Poo

I'm pretty sure that on a '57 plate the Warrior isn't the top spec model and therefore wouldn't be the 170bhp model. The range topping model was the Animal - still wouldn't have one though. Don't feel very rugged and the car like driving position doesn't suit a pick-up.

Posted 3 months ago #
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

Think I've plumped for a Navara to replace my Ranger - the new Ranger is too pricey. Amarok is nice, but gutless (driven one)and you have to take out a 2nd mortgage to get one with any decent extras.

Nav is a bit long in the tooth, but....

190bhp, cruise control, steering wheel controls, full leather, electric sunroof, heated power folding mirrors, dual zone climate control, auto dimming rear view mirrow, automatic headlights, rain sensing wipers, heated electrically adjusted seats, sat-nav, dvd player, HDD music server, reversing camera, Bluetooth phone & media connection.

Posted 3 months ago #
knottinbotswana - Member

For what it's worth, the top-of-the-line all-new Ford Ranger just got an "Our Choice" rating in South African Car magazine, dethroning the Hilux. And South Africans know a thing or two about ~~bakkies~~ pickup trucks.

We have a pair of 2.5 turbo-diesel Rangers and a pair of 3.0 D-4D Hiluxes in our fleet. 50,000km each in the last 14 months. Rangers are horrible, gutless things and given to the junior staff (when they aren't at the workshop waiting for parts).

VW Amarok got good reviews, but people here don't trust small displacement engines.

Nissan Navara is well regarded and popular, mainly with company owners due to its more upmarket interior.

Isuzu's seem to be bit meh: haven't driven or been in one for many years - the 2.8DT from 2001 was pretty nice to drive.

Posted 3 months ago #
buttercup - Member

STR. note that is a '12 ranger(which is only available in the EU) not a '13 or '14 ranger.. Just saying.
The less popular 150 ecoboost is to replace the ranger..

Posted 3 months ago #
trail_rat - Member

i do like the 12 ranger there ....

i love the F 150 and 250 in the states - had an f150 hire truck - it was basic inside but it was still cool as ****

a mate had an older shape navara - it was fine and dandy

had the last 2 shape hilux`s in 2.5 D and 2.5DID in africa - the 2.5D was **** - the 2.5DID wasnt much better

as far as rediculous pick ups go - f350 with fox suspension on castor wheels out in california on a site...... its parked on a slight slope - he drove down and went to reverse back into that space and couldnt do it , just got spinny ! had to drive down turn about take a run up and reverse down the hill into the space - course alot of american pick ups are RWD only - our dodge 4000HD was , **** hate box

Posted 3 months ago #
derekrides - Member

knottinbotswana - Member

VW Amarok got good reviews, but people here don't trust small displacement engines.

It's kitted with low and hi range turbos, quite an efficient new engine, having said that it has stalled on a third gear take off which wouldn't have happened with the Chevy with it's 3.0ltr common rail.

Flip side, if it's your main day to day and you're on road more than off which I am (although I live down this unmade track at the edge of town next to a bike trail) then of all of them it drives most like a car, better than the Hilux imv.

I've towed a couple of boats around, nothing heavy, but it ate it up a trip from Southampton back here to Hythe towing at 80+ if I needed to.

So I really rate it.

Navara's? They're so nineties and mostly from Dale farm.

Posted 3 months ago #