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What newspaper and why?
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kimbersFull Member
online
guardian-can be preachy and hypocritical and monbiot…. but overall its anti tory bias pleases me and the live blogs are probably the best source of breaking news around
bbc, probably the most balanced but it can be very dumbed down sometimes
telegrpah- if thepaywall thing isnt blocking- tho some of the comments wind me up, really nasty stuff,
independent- not bad but dont update their stories enough,
bits of ft, cnn, al jazeerapaper
occasionally the guardian at the weekends or i in the week
metro is dire_tom_Free MemberI dont often get a paper because they’re all full of the same stuff anyway and its always bad news that makes you despair about most things! If I do then its the I as its cheap and not too big.
bokononFree MemberCan’t beat the Morning Star, Weekly Worker, Socialist Worker and Workers Hammer for a bit of Tory hating.
For actual news, I tend to rely on Newsthump and the Daily Mash.
convertFull Memberand the Daily Mash.
The Daily Mash is only vaguely funny if you are well versed in the ‘real’ news story from which theirs is twisted. So you must be getting the real news from somewhere.
bokononFree MemberSo you must be getting the real news from somewhere.
facebook and twitter all tend to filter news pretty well, rather than use a single news source.
footflapsFull MemberGuardian. Used to get it delivered every day, then the local newsagent stopped doing paper rounds, then it closed. We now have yet another Chicken Cottage shop in it’s place….
At weekends, we buy the Sunday Times just to see what the enemy is up to….
andytherocketeerFull MemberPaper newspapers are only useful to line bin with to mop up teabag juices before the bin can go skanky, fill the recycling bin, and use to protect floor etc. when doing bike maintenance in the kitchen.
Online – just BBC News and the Register.
I refuse to click on any Guardian or Daily Mail link out of principle.cheekyboyFree MemberThe BBC is blatantly biased, its biased because it is staffed mainly with left leaning liberal folk
Its chief political editor is a conservative.
One so far, I dont know about Nick Robinson seems to me to be more of a toady to the tories, if he is a card carrying conservative I would be surprised.
binnersFull MemberAndy – I can understand not clicking on the Mail on general principle, its a truly vile rag, but what principles do the Guardian violate? Apart from allowing George Monbiot room to spout off, which I think we can all object too
ransosFree MemberOne so far, I dont know about Nick Robinson seems to me to be more of a toady to the tories, if he is a card carrying conservative I would be surprised.
He’s the political editor for BBC news, was president of the Conservative association when he was at Oxford, and chair of the young Conservatives.
footflapsFull MemberHe’s the political editor for BBC news, was president of the Conservative association when he was at Oxford, and chair of the young Conservatives.
Conclusive proof he’s a Marxist, leftwing, hand wringing liberal if ever I saw it.
mogrimFull MemberConclusive proof he’s a Marxist, leftwing, hand wringing zionist liberal if ever I saw it.
FTFY
andytherocketeerFull MemberActually it was Facebook and Guardian conspiring to foist a political bias on their users with their seamless sharing (ie spam my feed). Think they fixed that feature eventually. But I knew not just the stories that people shared but every single Guardian story that friends had read. Which was quite a significant number.
Mail of course needs no explanation.
TPTcruiserFull MemberI started reading the Guardian on a Monday, Thursday and Saturday for the longer reports of football matches and the cricket. Monday had media jobs which have given me two jobs in my career, Thursday was films and technology/computing. They moved films to Friday and technology is everywhere and football is on every night and even Test cricket starts on a Wednesday some weeks, so I mostly read the web: BBC, Guardian, PCPro, The Register and Singletrackworld.
yunkiFree MemberLocal paper for me..
Reading the nationals marks you out as a person of low intelligence with little imagination IMO..They are full of pretentious pseudo intellectual nonsense at best
andytherocketeerFull MemberLocal news is mostly death, rape, murders, arson, or at least was when I lived back in UK.
Fortunately round here the local rag delivery kids don’t understand the native language, and can’t understand the “no newspapers / no advertising bumpf” sticker on the letter box, so they do give me a steady supply of teabag juice and bike lube absorption material.
cheekyboyFree Memberwas president of the Conservative association when he was at Oxford, and chair of the young Conservatives
So without doing any deep research into the bloke I can only assume that his political allegiance is towards the wealthy and the priviledged, the point I am trying to make is that the people on the ground at the BBC are in the main of a left liberal political outlook, of course there will be individual cases were this does not always apply, is it still the case that the only paper used to advertise jobs at the beeb is the Grunadia ?
chakapingFree Memberis it still the case that the only paper used to advertise jobs at the beeb is the Grunadia ?
No idea, but the Guardian was the only place that loads of media jobs were advertised – even for right-wing papers.
Their media supplement was the market leader once the Press Gazette had withered away.
fasthaggisFull MemberMy old journeyman once said ” You are what you read son ” and he handed me The Guardian . This was amongst a crowd of blokes reading the Express,Mail and Daily Record .
I have been brainwashed ever since, thanks George 🙂
ransosFree MemberSo without doing any deep research into the bloke I can only assume that his political allegiance is towards the wealthy and the priviledged, the point I am trying to make is that the people on the ground at the BBC are in the main of a left liberal political outlook, of course there will be individual cases were this does not always apply, is it still the case that the only paper used to advertise jobs at the beeb is the Grunadia ?
And my point is that the person in charge of the political commentary on prime time BBC news is a conservative. If the BBC is full of lefty liberals, how did he get the gig?
teamhurtmoreFree MemberMorning via iPad versions: FT first (economics, markets, politics – love the polite version of STW that accompanies anything that Wolfgang Munchau writes about Europe, especially the weekly WM v thegreektaxpayer!), Times for news, Torygraph for sport and cryptic crossword (not clever enough for the Times version), Guardian for news and comment and v occassionally The Indie (to read friend’s articles),
Then the NS v Spectator – always fun to see how they tackle the same issues – and The Economist. The latter always fills me with a guilt trip as feel that should read it all but never do!!!! Read the bits I am interested in on Friday, leave the rest!
Quite like the BBC and great shame that Stephaine Flanders is jumping to JP Morgan asset management. 🙁
I think newspapers generally represent phenomenal VFM – just a pity there isn’t more time to read them.
aphex_2kFree MemberGoogle Currents on my Nexus 10. Generally the newspapers over here are crap.
emszFree MemberFunny , my mum reads the Mail and from stuff I’ve read on here I give her such a hard time about it now! Don’t really read any paper everyday, although I buy the “i” a couple of times a week as its cheap!
cheekyboyFree MemberAnd my point is that the person in charge of the political commentary on prime time BBC news is a conservative. If the BBC is full of lefty liberals, how did he get the gig?
Well does his brief from the BBC mean that all other commentary should follow his lead if so the you are saying that the BBC could be classed as an authoritarian institution more in keeping with a leftist organisation.
It may be because they like him and he ticks the required boxes, his political views cannot change what happens politically only the spin on how he interpretates it for reporting, cameron claims also to be a conservative when in fact he is a wealthy, priviledged liberal without any real idea or care how the real people of this country live.
Moving on from Robinson do you have any more examples of conservatives at the Beeb ?
ernie_lynchFree Memberthe point I am trying to make is that the people on the ground at the BBC are in the main of a left liberal political outlook
That’s a reflection of journalism as a profession rather than the BBC. Journalists, compared to the general population, have a tendency to hold left-wing views, including those who work on publications which have a right-wing editorial policy. There are plenty of people who hold left-wing views that work for ITN, despite the fact that ITN bashing isn’t remotely as popular as BBC bashing.
IME working people who are well informed of the facts behind an argument, which you would expect journalists to be, have a tendency to be more left-wing in their conclusions than those who are ill-informed.
RustySpannerFull Memberi/Telegraph/Guardian during the week, depending on whether I want to know what the enemy is thinking or just want my prejudices reinforced.
Telegraph on Saturday, mostly for the GK Crossword, Motoring and Sport sections, Observer on a Sunday.
None of them are what they were – the Telegraph is a shadow of it’s former self and the Guardian is like the Beano for sixth formers.
lodiousFree MemberI used to get the Guardian every day…it’s standards have dropped a lot since them. Telegraph is now a broadsheet Daily Mail.I find the Times a bit dull. Newspapers have now been replaced with Internet and R4.
garage-dwellerFull MemberFinancial times.
BBC website but the reporting is often a bit hit and miss on anything less than the major national and international stuff.
Local papers too.Garry_LagerFull MemberDecent NewYorker article here about the Guardian / Rusbridger and how they’re coping with being a global brand that is losing money hand over fist:
Long, but worth a read if you’re a Guardian person.
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