for commuting i'd go with a Bandit 650

or a Honda CBF 600

anythig else is overkill for commuting - unless you're doing some proper rides on a weekend
for commuting i'd go with a Bandit 650

or a Honda CBF 600

anythig else is overkill for commuting - unless you're doing some proper rides on a weekend
PeterPoddy:
Hayabusa for commuting? 2000 mile tyre life? OK, explain that one!
Well, as with anything, it's down to how you ride it!
I reckon on motorways, if you're easy on the gas, and you don't put full-on sticky tyres on it, you'll get 4-5000 miles from a rear and 6-7 from a front. It's acceleration that eats rear tyres, not cruising in my experience.
Certainly, I get 4000 miles out of my GSX-R1000s rear and don't exactly hang around on that.
A 'Busa ain't a cheap commuter, but it is a perfectly valid long distance tourer. That's why Suzuki built it.
I get about 3000 miles out of the rear tyre on the CBR600 and was getting about 6000 out of a BT20 on the Deauville, although 10000 miles wasn't unknown on the (horrible) OE Macadams.
My Deauville will have been cheaper to run than most of the cars I've had (cheap insurance, low depreciation and decent fuel consumption) however my current Honda Jazz would probably give it a run on costs. The CBR600 I've found fairly expensive to run - partly because I don't do a lot of miles on it plus it'd depreciated more because, unlike many people, I still ride it in the wet and in winter. Too early to tell for sure on the CBF1000 but I'm expecting it to be more expensive per mile that the car.
My cheapest bike to run is my XBR500. Good on fuel, zero depreciation (it might even go up a little in value) and cheap tyres and servicing. Fine for a shorter commute but while it'd cope with 120 miles a day it wouldn't be my first choice.
An earlier poster mentioned the Bandit 1250GT - I considered one of those as an alternative to the CBF as it looks great value. I've tended to get on better with Honda's over the years though (although I think I've owned as many Suzuki's as Hondas) which tipped the balance.
Dibbs, you enjoying the smart? What's it like?
Second the Bandit 1250 recommendation.
CBF1000 and Bandit1250 are both good shouts.
Having done my long commute in all weathers on small capacity bikes (600cc & 750cc) it is perfectly possible and they were perfectly capable.
BUT, they were both hard(er) work. I never arrived at work feeling refreshed and ready to go. With the Blackbird (an 1100cc mile muncher), it's a different matter entirely.

I saw one of those at Zurich airport parked up at the bike racks
So amalgamating all the above answers, and taking an average, removing any aberrant data, the answer is:
Fiat Panda.
More economical, no need for special clothes or luggage carriers.
Oh, and you may have to smoke something non mainstream to get the happy feeling that a large bike gives you.
[i]on small capacity bikes (600cc & 750cc)i]
Like the 'small' bikes comment!
Another advantage of high-revving 4 cylinders is that torque is quite high up the rev range. Consequently they are easier to ride in the wet (and on slippery roads), especially when short-shifting - except for exup equipped ones...
I find it weird that when I first got into bikes (at 16) a 650 was a BIG bike (T120 Bonnie,mmmmm). Now my 1050 Triumph seems about average when you look at all the 1100s, 1200s, even 1400s around. Not counting cruisers of course. Rocket 3 anyone?
sorry b r - It wasn't meant to be derogatory - merely a typo. I should have said smallER. Apologies.
Funniest thread ever-knee of the ground race machine for commuting LOL!
That Vespa is very nice Poddy Man!
How the hell do you use a motor bike in Winter ice/snowy roads? Isn't it slippery or do get winter tyres etc? (It's he only thing keeping me not buying a motorbike again.)
CBR 600 -my old man used for 10 years commuting and fun etc.
He's semi retired but has a mint Honda C90 cub in the garage! LOL I've raced him on my roadbike for 3 miles but he beat me uphill...
I once had a RD350LC to go to work on when i worked in Banbury,35miles each way where i lived then...
Couldnt wait to finish & blast home....
Never let me down EVERY
Wind,snow or in the rain...
I bought it off a good mate over there for £500 9 years ago..Only wish i still had her..WEEP WEEP...
Stupid as it sounds, my summer commuter is my 749r. However, sat alongside it in the garage is my new desmo rr which definitely won;t be used for commuting!!
"How the hell do you use a motor bike in Winter ice/snowy roads? Isn't it slippery or do get winter tyres etc? (It's he only thing keeping me not buying a motorbike again.)"
With a road bike, you try not to, basically. Actual snowy roads are pretty rare though in this country and a little snow isn't too bad but ice and deep snow on road tyres is very bad. You can get around to some extent if you know how but because you have to ride so cautiously with huuuuge braking zones etc other road users are a constant hazard too. It is not fun.
Even worse if (like idiot here) you have something daft with no central tyre tread on the back, I literally can't ride mine up the driveway if there's an inch of snow on it, it's incapable of moving itself up the tiny slope
Still this is about my 8th scottish winter and there's not been many days I've felt it wasn't wise to ride. More this year than in all the 7 before in fact, there were quite a few days where I broke out the mountain bike instead, couldn't have even got the motorbike out of the garage. I'd not have tried to commute by car either though for most of those days.
ChrisA
That's seriously tasty.
Bloomin' expensive too?
Thought the r was awkward at low revs, more suited to track work than traffic lights.
How the hell do you use a motor bike in Winter ice/snowy roads? Isn't it slippery or do get winter tyres etc?
I don't ride if ice is going to form badly. Usually my gauge is if my road is iced over I take the car, which usually is rare. Alot of my winter commuting is on roads with some small ice patches. You can do it fine as long as you are smooth. If the bike is falling over at a controllable rate you can stop it hitting the deck like a sack of spuds by pulling in the clutch and revving the nuts off it to use the gyro effect of the engine to hold it upright. Done this a few times and it's magic as the bike rights itself. Only works if the ice patch is small enough for you to pass over it freewheeling or you're going fast.
At present I'm riding a Husaberg FS 650e.
Try a commute on that!
I never had a single issue on the raod with the 748. Not uncomfortable, that's a myth. The 900SS before it put more weight on your wrists than the 748 is supposed to have done.
However, I see that we have turned a tide and we're now discussing what bike to buy that will also be decent on a daily ride into work.
How the hell do you use a motor bike in Winter ice/snowy roads? Isn't it slippery or do get winter tyres etc?
Carefully....
I miss 2 or maybe 3 days per year due to road conditions.
I live in the countryside & the conditions on my street don't necessarily match those on the more used roads. (read gritted :))
This means it's a bit of a guesstimation how things will be once I've covered the 5km towards civilisation. I've misjudged it a couple of times & it's been damn scary I don't mind admitting. Not sure if my BMW tank is good or bad in such circumstances but don't fancy trying to pick it back up!
Earlier in the thread I didn't mention that I commuted on a ZX9R (& CBR600 / ZX7R / DR650) before the Beemer. The ZX9R is also very good but no heated grips / ABS. Also the seating position is less upright / high (= less good in heavy traffic). For the 2nd hand price of a low mileage ZX9R you could do a lot worse. (edit - it also does warp speed pretty damn well
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I know everyone jumped on the back of the guy who mentioned the 748 for commuting but there is an element of sense in his hopefully slightly tongue in cheek advice. Don't overlook the personal desirability of your choice. I could never bring myself to care about a Deauville or a ER500..... (sorry to those who do)
Full marks to commuting on a Husaberg. I tried it a few times on my old Husky 610SM including the lovely left hand side kick start. Stupid & impractical but amusing.
I could never bring myself to care about a Deauville or a ER500..... (sorry to those who do)
No, neither could I. But that's missing the point. If you're gonna commute all year, 120 miles round trip, you need a bike that you DON'T care about to do it on. Something practical, comfy and hopefully cheap to run. And 150bhp is no use at all in traffic. I'd murder you on a 125cc scooter.
You need something smooth and punchy, that will pull from nothing instantly ) and thrap along at 80mph sipping petrol. If you spend a lot of time in traffic, an upright riding position and slim dimensions are required. Lots of motorway/A-road time? You'll be needing a fairing.
All this talk of sportsbikes is crazy. It's just throwing money down the drain.....
120 miles? Get an original VFR or an old K1000. I would.
how about a fazer 600? Get about 65mpg on the long runs, pulls OK and use ACF50 to keep it OK over winter. Cheap too.
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