can anyone rec the strongest stiffest full susser please. 8)

Probably a Nicoli I'd have thought. But then you will already know that.

For what use?

liteville 301.

it keeps coming out tops in 'steifigkeit' tests in the german mags – and the germans love testing things….

if you're interested i can get more info to you, but i doubt you'll find many/a test ride in the UK.

drooool…….

lowey, **** off……….. 😆
are they tho??

Ventana must be one of the stiffest. But then you will already know that

If you don't like the way the rear wheel moves up and down so much maybe you should try a hardtail. 😉

What about them Chumba's progressive bikes do? Gotta be worth a test ride I would have thought…

Dont you have a huge 29'r Ventana's or something?

I reckon either a 29er Ventana or an XL Heckler Tony 😉

also, why are you assuming it is for me……..when it is not.
it is for a mate from the rugby club, who is gonna start riding, and wants something suitable from the off.
but he is too small to get a man size bike like me and vortex….. 😆

Brooklyn Race Link…!

Nah, what you want is a mark one superlight,or one of the first tomacs, that will see him all right. 😉

Something with a DW/VPP/maestro style linkage and swingarm I'd guess.

big stiff triangle front end

big stiff triangulated rear end (in 3-dimensions if you go for a proper bolt through)

Ask orange very nicely to make a 5 with a bolt through rear end? Or maybe an alpine?

Ventana make smaller FS frames than Chucky's. My Grandson was riding one when he was 4ft 10".

Does he want a full bike or frame? Frame = Chumba XCL! I would say one of THE stiffest 5" frames in existance!

That frame looks lovely. However, just imagine slipping off of the saddle onto the crossbar just as the suspension compresses moving the link up into your bum or worse man bits and then taking them with it as it returns. Ouch.

showed him a heckler, said it was ugly
showed him a five, he laughed
said my ventana looked odd………….checky ****
i will show him the chumba si……….cheers

Actually, if you want stiff……

Karpiel!

The Armageddon

flash…….that is a motorbike mate……… 🙄

What about a "slopestyle" bike, so something like a Kona Bass. Surely they have to be pretty stiff but without full downhill travel

Lenz

my o4 norco shore. fondly named the death barge for its weight, robustness and its ability to ride over just about anything.

Nicolais are renowned for being one of the stiffest framesets. Read the Kalle Nicolai feature on the front page!

The Santa Cruz Blur lt Carbon is being bandied about as being stiffer than their v-10 behemoth. Hard to believe but testers reckon it could well be. Looks like a great trail bike. I've got one ordered…

a Hardtail

seriously.

GW
a Hardtail

seriously.
i have 4 frames in the garage 2 of which are suitable, but he wants a susser……..

wants and needs are 2 different things
i'll lend you my strange if you want?

ton has your mate seen any diddy Ventana frames ?

no alan, is there some on mtbr??
or your site, or do you have a link mate..

An old style Bullit? DH bikes will be stiffer? Therefore why not run a XL DH frame with XC kit ton-stylee?

A sort of full sus XC on steriods.

A Banshee Rune…

ton on mtbr Ventana forum page 3 titled Iris1006's New custom ride. I have pics of other small frames I have sold that I can email you.

I've always thought this'd (pronghorn) make a stiff bike, the marketing blurb reckon's so too

I am a (ahem) burly chap.

I've done a fair bit of searching on this and I reckon a Morewood, Bolt through Orange or a Nicolai.

When this one breaks it's a Shova for me. Maybe even one this summer if I'm feeling flush.

hemlock 😯

Giant Reign.

On a "more affordable" note, all the Giant range of full suss bikes are very stiff for what they are.

I've got a Reign X (6.7" of travel) which is far stiffer than anything else of a similar travel that I've ridden. The old 4" travel Trances were well known for being pretty overbuilt and very stiff for what they are. Normal Reigns and the newer Trance X's too all very stiff bikes.

And your mate, if he's new to the sport, might be happier dropping £1500 on a whole bike than just on a frame! Perhaps… 😉

blanche – Member
The Santa Cruz Blur lt Carbon is being bandied about as being stiffer than their v-10 behemoth. Hard to believe but testers reckon it could well be. Looks like a great trail bike.

That was going to be my suggestion too.