After new one, just wondering if anyone has any recommendation

Ta.

Really impressed with my osprey somethingorother*. I’ve had Dakine nomad and Camelbak Mule but neither have been as comfy or well laid out as the osprey.

* possibly a talon? It’s peeing down and I’m warm and cosy so won’t be going into the garage. Sorry.

dakine drafter. Just big enough for a big day out, but not too big for a quick blast.

Osprey viper 10

Can recommend my Gelert one as a cheap option, my 1.5 litre was £12 in a local outdoor shop but are similar money on Ebay, 2 litre one is a bit more at £16. Well made, sturdy zips and good straps and the bladder is good with a camelbak style bite valve and on/off lever.

Can you be any more specific? (Or could you be any less 😉 ?)

Madison are doing a number of Hydrapaks cheap (40% off or so?) at the mo. though their website will only show RRPs I’d think.

Camelbak Volt LR.

Same idea as a Wingnut.
Sits low on your back, stores the water down low so you don’t feel the weight and doesn’t move about/try and overtake you on steep stuff.

It also has the added benifit that being a Camelbak it shouldn’t fall apart like the Wingnut tends to.

Wingnut. Once you have used one you can’t go back…

Less sweaty back, more stable, easy pocket access for food and tools, lower centre of gravity.

Okay, I’ve been out to check and mine is an Osprey Raptor 10.

Like this

So good that I’ve got my slippers wet just to recommend it to an Internet stranger.

boriselbrus – Member

Wingnut. Once you have used one you can’t go back…

See my post above yours.
That comes from someone that’s had three Wingnuts. 😉

Are wing-nuts any different to bumbags from the 80s?

Sweaty lower back, discomfort of all the weight on the stomach strap?

Are wing-nuts any different to bumbags from the 80s?

Yes.

They’re not purple. 😆

No, totally different to a bumbag. The weight is still on your shoulders, but your upper back is exposed so stays nice and cool.

Mule NV is the best pack I’ve owned.
Pros
3lt
Good storage
Good air flow
Good overflow
Stays put
Compression straps work well
Waterproof cover
Hip pockets for gels
Cons
Little bit heavy but just mtfu

Love my Evoc CC16, very comfy and well laid out, no bladder included though.

Dakine Amp 18.

A little big, 12 would be better.

Camelbak Volt LR.

Same idea as a Wingnut.
Sits low on your back, stores the water down low so you don’t feel the weight and doesn’t move about/try and overtake you on steep stuff.

It also has the added benifit that being a Camelbak it shouldn’t fall apart like the Wingnut tends to.

Having owned both I’d argue quite the contrary… 😉

Wingnuts are great bits of kit. The Camelbaks look good too, especially as the res folds round the body.

I really like Dakine bags, I’ve got a Session(?) For short blasts and a Nomad for longer days. Lots of folks complain about the Hydrapak bladders they come with, though I’ve never had an issue with them.

Deuter have some good ones

I like quite a big pack and got a Dakine Nomad ( i think) 18 L pack with a 3 L bladder. The bladder is a really good design too, easier to fill and clean then the camel back i had. Find it very comfy to use get loads in it lots of pockets etc,
was half price in a sale.

Having owned both I’d argue quite the contrary…

That’s interesting seen as the Vault has only been available for a couple of weeks. 😆

You’re getting your volts and your charges mixed up there.

BTW.
If anyone wants to buy a Wingnut that’s only been used a couple of times feel free to email me. (warranty replacement)

So good that I’ve got my slippers wet just to recommend it to an Internet stranger.

Surely a euphemism waiting to happen lol 😛

My deuter race is 6 years old now and although its a bit grubby there are no splits or wear. In contrast I’ve had to stitch my 4 year old camelback up several times. When I replace the deuter it will be with another deuter

Hydrapak big sur

Osprey Viper doing the biz for me. Very impressed.

I had settled on an osprey zealot 10, popped up to alpine bikes to pick one up, and it appears that you don’t get a reservoir with it? Wtf? 63 quid (rrp 70) and another 28 for a reservoir. I quickly stepped away.

Have an Ergon BD1 I got 2nd hand off someone on here. It sits nicely and having the weight carried lower on the back is a revelation to me. The design keeps the pack from sitting against my back too, which is nice.

Its probably too heavy for any weight weenies though due to the frame.

Have used much Osprey stuff in the past, mostly for winter stuff, and can’t rate them enough in terms of functionality and durability.

just got an osprey talon lumber ( aka bum ) pack. 8L, no bladder, getting on for 35 quid. seems nicely made. had a wingnut for 3 years. zips starting to go, hole in the bottom of one pocket. good design, poor execution IMO, and too pricey. YMMV.

I use several.

Everyone giving recommendations here and it depends on how long you are out for.

How many litres of fluid do you need and how much kit do you need to carry?

A 1 hour spin is totally different to a full day out in the hills

Love my Evoc CC16, very comfy and well laid out, no bladder included though.

+1

Best compromise I have found so far and showing little wear after a year of use 2-3 times per week. I had a spare camelback bladder so simply used that.

Just got the mule nv not tested yet but ticks all the boxes. My last camelback lasted 6 years no problems so no issue with a higher purchase price as will end up cheaper in the long run

I can’t believe I waited so long before getting something with an organised pocket, knowing exactly where stuff is is a revelation.