For commuting and mtb-ing?

Specific morning ones? Nice edit

Also how hot is hot? Anything up to about 35 just the normal trail xc ones. Nothing too heavy in the material.

Lol, thanks.

I’m talking 30 plus. Really sweaty ‘nads, chaffing- you get the picture!

My toxic Alien mansweat seems to have finally done for the crotch-stitch of these Enduras, with the immediate effect of vented nads. Evolution at work?

Gore Alp-X bibtight shorts – decent seatpad and lightweight, vented outer keeps you cool

Lighter liner shorts to keep the undercarriage vented better. I have some tld ones that are mesh apart from the chammy that make a difference when it’s really hot.

Mavic Stratos – I think – liner shorts, not the greatest chamois ever but okay and made from mesh. Match with a lightweight baggy with venting.

Edit: Now the Crossmax Ultimate Undershort I think.

Endura Humvee Lite are about the lightest and best I’ve found – and I’m in a hot and sweaty place!