good review of the gyro here http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk/blog/longtermer-orange-gyro-pro-2.htm
What bikes haven't I thought of? (long travel 29er)
crazybaboon - hope you recover soon. I'll be up near wakefield for a few days end of next week/up to xmas actually, so I'll have a think if I'd have the time to pop down to sheffield (be going past on the way up but no idea when).
How tall are you/how do you find the fit? Also how have you got it built up? Wondering also about rear tyre clearance.
Gyro's get good reviews, but I've something against oranges, and if I didn't I'd be looking at waiting for the new 29er five (or whatever they end up calling it).
I'm a bit over 6" 4' with long legs. The head tube is a bit short and I've had to run a stem with rise and a few spacers, there's still a fair drop from the saddle to the bars. The top tube is long and fits me well. It's got a purgatory 2.2 tyre on the back and there's a fair bit of room, the brace on the seat stays is the limiting factor, 2.4 are supposed to fit ok.
I'm running a 120mm Reba at the moment, but I've got a 140mm revelation to go on when I get round to it.
Its built with a nine speed triple, but it'll have a 10 speed double on soon
Cheers, 6'4" here too and long legs, I like quite a bit of drop to the bars in general (on my DH bike i'd run the saddle and bars the same height, or even some drop to the bars).
It was clearance to that brace that concerned me, 2.2 with room sounds good though.
Fork wise, I'd be looking at 140mm for sure, I do wonder how much stick the horsethief is designed to take - though they do say it's ok with 140s which is encouraging.
I'd be going 1x9 or 1x10, with a chain device.
I know I'm late to this topic but I've got a very similar situation - 6ft5 looking for a AM 29er to replace my enduro. Here are my conclusions so far:
Banshee prime - awesome geo for me (long top tube on XL, short chainstay slack ha etc etc) and cheap but a bit heavy. Going to be available through new distributor soon with fox or cane creek air. I've hopefully got a demo booked with the first full build in the UK. Available from feb I think in UK or already available through their german importer.
Stumpy evo carbon - light, great reviews but £££. Not in UK but on sale in Germany (HI Bike and others). They won't post but you could get a cheap flight or if you have friends...Spec UK say they will honour an international guarantee if I buy one overseas. Demoing one in texas next month.
Others on the shortlist Yeti SB96 (I'm not sure about the longevity of the bearings based on internet chats), Intense tracer 29 (great reviews but I'd want an angleset and it all gets a bit expensive) and the yet to be announced Orange Five 29er (check out mtbcut's instagram feed for shots of the 20").
Personally wouldn't have a horsethief as chainstay is v v long and I love the ride of my honzo (short cs long reach). If you're after a hardtail then the honzo is amazing btw.
I'm after the same and though I change my mind regularly i'm starting to settle on the Transition Covert 29er build spec 2 (140mm front and rear). Colours are a bit plain, but I'm not that bothered about it looking too flash, attracts less attention that way.
Had thought about changing my 5 last year but am hanging on to try Orange's 140mm 29er. Never been a fan of big wheels but coming round to the idea.
Can I recommend a company that has been at it longer than most?
I have a previous generation Ventana El Capitan, which is 130mm, and will take 140mm forks, and I love it. My fabulous do almost everything bike (although, for the alps, a very rough 3 days riding convinced me it was not enough bike!).
The new generation looks even more lovely, tapered headtube, bigger seat tube (30.9), 120 or 140 travel. I think I am riding 21" btw, 6'4" and a 34" inseem. slammed 70mm 0 rise stem, and like a glove it fits, like a glove.
I would get one of these.
This was my choice (although I already had a Nicolai Helius FR so it was a pretty obvious choice)... a 140mm travel Nicolai Helius AC 29er.
Ive recently built up a 2013 Ellsworth Evolution 29er, its epic!
Maybe of little help as the Large Tallboys have a 24" TT but, just in case;
Tallboy carbon frame 2099 Euro
Tallboy alloy frame 1499 Euro
I've gone for the horsethief, as it seemed the best compromise for what I wanted in a bike - and comes in a good size. Once it arrives and I've got it built I'll post back...and how I get one once I've ridden it a bit.
I hear what folk are saying about the chainstays, but then they aren't everything and it's not been a huge issue for me before...but we'll see. Pros and cons to long stays, as with everything!
I have it's predecessor, the Salsa Big Mama which has silly long chainstays (a std shimano chain has to be lengthened to fit a 3x9 drivetrain) and i've never had an issue with the handling and i also have a super short rear ended Honzo as well. Can't say i really notice any difference in the real world.
Post up some pics once the Horsethief is done, it'll be interesting to see it.
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