2 x XML Led’s throwing out 1800 lumens, in it’s prototype stage next to my unreparable light and Motion Arc light, the Led now uses the L&M battery

Beam shots on there own to follow once they arrive and shots with the Lumen Liberator as well.

Bring on Thursday’s night ride

i will just have to try and keep up with you on thursday night john as my lights are shite

want

With my cracked ribs you’ll be riding in my shadow all night crezzy.

Hope you can make it, it’s been ages

so far the plan is i will be joining you , can we put some lead weights in phils camelback to slow him down

I use to hate threads like this until I finally took the plunge and got a Lib 3.0

i want one but simply cant afford one

He’s made a 4 xml light too.. thread on mtbr..3800 lumens.. insanity!

Is it a helmet light?
It’ll Be a bit of a spotty beam with those laura RS optics!

SpaceHopper

the Quad is to be dismantled and made into 2 lights as the 4 Regina Reflectors dont perform well enough IMHO

this one is for me the perfect helmet light with an incredible range of both lumens and distance .
these XML leds are something else with the right optic and you can also swap for a wider optic and swop range for flood .

its certainly a Betty beater 😈

how big a battery do you need for this Chris?

I love the big red button!

Now there’s the rub it is more efficient than the older leds .

No run time tests as it is Johns L&M battery so I dont know the Amp hour of it
All I know is it is a 11.1 volt Li Ion pack with 6 cells so I am quessing it is a 4.4 amp hour pack

so 48 watts capacity
the 2 XMLs are 6.5 volts and if on full 3 amps = 19.5 watts
so a runtime for John if on high would be 2.46 hours
but his batteries are old so who knows .

low and medium would be used the most with high for the registered blind 😯

so to answer your question Steve for the double ideal battery would be 11.1 volts and above a 7.4 volt would be a bit close to the VF of the leds

just measured the draw from a 15v 2.6 amp hour volt battery
37 watts capacity

low 80 Ma runtime 30 hours rideable
medium 280 ma runtime 8 hours Kin Bright
high 1400 ma run time 1 hour 45 mins WTF is that

OK – next question – are you making any more and ….. how much?

Yes I will be hacking the odd one out

cost wise to be thought about when I make another one

Cobbled one up for me with integrated rear red leds as I keep losing rear lights .

here is a blair witch video of Johns light .

Stop it right now Morgan, you’ve already got enough to light the whole of Cardiff:)

the big red button should have a big GO! printed on it 😀

watched the video and it looks like a fantastic little light! and when you turn it up to high… 😯

*wants some XMLS and a 3A driver to play with*

Think the Laura Optics are brilliant… (apart from the wide optic.. thats just rubbish!) just wished that farnell had some of the smooth spot.. the Real spot is just a bit too tight for me.. though the diffuser optics (if they ever arrive) might be the one..!

Hi Trout & JC

I’m in the same boat. The bulb/ballast on my L&M arc unit are on their last legs and I emailed Trout last night about options for a head unit to utilise my battery and charger.

Will be very interested in seeing whats been done, beam shots and feedback etc

Trout – Let me know if you didnt receive my mail (email in profile) Ta.

Troutie
Are you getting your emails ok?
Cheers
Paul

It would appear I am not getting some Emails

Now from ponty and cant find one from Speshpaul either .

Posting it today out to JC so will need to wait for his feedback .

Trout
Just emailed you from work.
drop me a line if its turned up. Cheers
Paul

looks like Troutie decapitated Number 5 the Short Circuit robot and shaved his eyebrows

is there any trout lights in the pipeline for us out here who have lighter wallets ,im not fit enough to be chaseing johns back wheel .either that trout or do you fancy sponsering us woolybacks [theres a couple of us doing mayhem ]

Troutie.
Did you manage to get it in today’s post?

If any of you fancy the chance of winning a set of Trouties excellent minis then you better get on this thread : http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/win-trout-lights-for-5-support-team-bulheart

Just imagine how bright the lights are when you only paid a fiver for them!

Yes John managed to get to the PO this afternoon 😀 only problem is I have just found the charger mains lead 😳 which I missed packing .

I hope you have a kettle to borrow the lead off .

before 1.00 delivery

Crezzy .

yes got a few ideas in the pipeline

Great 🙂 but the wife doesn’t get home until 1.15 🙁

Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfiyWTDb_4A

Another chance to plug Trouties exellent Liberator light 😉

Still nothing on the email then Chris?

A package has arrived at home.

If it’s Trouties so called “Bastid” light I’ll get some beam shots up on here tonight alongside his Lunem Liberator shots for a comparison.

am i going to need my shades tomorow night john

Welding goggles 😯

No kidding about the welding gogles, I’ve just taken the snaps and WOW 😯 8)

Give me a few minutes and I’ll post up the results.

Trouties new prototype “Bastid” light on High
Taken on a pocket Sony Cybershot Fireworks settings

His Lumen Liberator on High

Both lights together, white rabbit at 12 paces back fence at 20 paces

And now on the normal setting without flash

It even melted the rabbit away

Don’t ride in front of me 😯

Looking good!

Shame we don’t have the original arc HID to compare!

How do you think it compares to the HID (when new) 2x 4x 6x etc?

I have the Ultra 9 cell battery, be nice to know how long it lasts on high?

Thanks

so check list for thursday night ride with john will consist of welding goggles and factor 50000 suntan lotion

I am a bit confused John

when you say Hi for the lights is that low / Hi / Boost .

and is that last shot both lights on boost .

so here are some of my shots comparing known lights with the dual XML

First of course the Bastid on full whack

then the 7UP @ 1 amp drive current

and finally the dual XML @ 3 amps drive current

I didn’t get a manual with it 😉
So mine I feel has 4 settings
off
low
med
high (is this boost?)

Anyway heres some shots I took using my Sony Cyber Shots Firework setting which gives a natural light but maybe doesn’t show it at it’s best then a normal shot which is a bit of over kill I guess?

[video]http://vimeo.com/19495217[/video]

Yes the fence needs painting….

Its difficult to get realistic photos of beam shots
Are you getting a ride tonight
then you will know if it is better than the Hid it replaced .

Let us know how it stacks up on a ride

Let us know how it stacks up on a ride

given his recent rides i think using the word “stack” is slightly unfortunate 🙂

OOps Sorry JC