Or it’s a case of regression to mean, and what we want is invariably to the left or right of what they offer.

Quite possibly, yes. That’s really why we need PR. A wider variety of politicians in the house would surely open up debate?

The theory of PR is great, but in practice it leads to coalitions that spend all day bickering and no time actually doing anything useful. While the UK version of democracy has a fair chunk of autocracy built into it, it does allow for things to get done.

As for who to vote in next, Labour and the Tories seem to be stuck in their never ending loop of repetition and its getting very boring indeed. Why not vote Lib Dem? They have some interesting policies, they’re quite open and honest about how they’re going to pay for things and I honestly can’t believe that they’ll be any worse than the rest.

I agree with what Molgrips says, before I read that, I was just about to post that the problem is us, the people. We don’t know what we want apart from more for nothing. To me there seem to be two general outlooks that are quite contradictory. 1)No one seems to give a monkey’s about anyone else anymore, and 2) there is an emphasis on the state/government being responsible for all society’s ills and this means that no one wants to take ultimate, especially financial responsiblity for themselves and their families anymore.

Ok, that’s a very simplistic analysis of societal change that has occurred over decades, but the attitude shift to these mutually opposed viewpoints has ended up with the ‘I want everything for nothing and see them next door, they don’t deserve anything’.

Regardless of what you think of their policies or whether or not they’ll win, a big increase in the Lib Dem share of the vote would hopefully be a pretty strong signal to the others.

I’ll be voting for the Lib Dems at the next election, because their candidate here is the best candidate.

This is democracy at work. The parties have converged on what we want, because that’s what’ll make them electable. So we as voters need to get a clue.

I think it’s more a case of the two parties converging on what the constituents of the marginals want.
If we ever want a govt that governs for the people then we need PR. Until then, it’s just a case of picking whichever you consider to be the lesser of two evils.

p!ssing the 3G licence money up the wall

The £22.5bn raised actually went straight to pay off the National Debt.

Carry on.

The £22.5bn raised actually went straight to pay off the National Debt.

Aye I’ve seen that trick before, pay off the credit card then hammer it again the next month.

No more 3G licences to sell off now though, and no gold stashed away for a rainy day and my god, its belting it down now and oh my, look how the price of gold has climbed.

nulabour have just followed on with the same old torry policies

if you disagree with how gordon has run things, especially the financial side then voting torry would the worst thing you could do

oh and one of my biggest regerets is not joining in the anti-iraq war demo

if it kicks off this summer i may just pop down and burn some effigies of cameron and blair coz they both repulse me

No more 3G licences to sell off now though, and no gold stashed away for a rainy day and my god, its belting it down now and oh my, look how the price of gold has climbed

Now don’t take this for a moment as a defence of Brown’s botched Gold sell off, but gold’s only of worth if you’re selling it, and now would be a good time to sell some as it’s worth loads. But it’s worth loads because people currently don’t trust something as intagible as money and prefer to place there faith in gold. Of course as soon as people trust money again then they sell the gold and it drops in price and having gold seems daft. I think i’m loosing the thread of what i’m trying to say, but it’s something along the lines of it’s rarely a good time to either buy sell or own gold, but sometimes it feels like it is. Or something like that anyway 🙂
Anyway the 2bn squandered on that cock-up barely covers the cost of banker’s packed lunch 🙂

it’s rarely a good time to either buy sell or own gold, but sometimes it feels like it is.

One good time to buy gold is when the price is depressed because somebody has announced they’re selling a load of it.

nulabour have just followed on with the same old torry policies

Well they might have tried to, but they’ve made rather a mess of it. I don’t think it has generally been a Tory policy to spend, spend, spend and run up a huge PSBR during a boom either.

Sootyandjim
We have all realised where your politics lie perhaps you and Flash could just e-mail each other and moan?

Junkyard – You’ve worked out who I vote for based on a few garnered snippets on an internet forum? My you must be one of the great sleuths.

Actually, whilst I see eye-to-eye with CFH on a few points they are very few. I’d suggest we have differing views over more than we agree on.

Ah I see what has confused you though. I’m sure in your little mind any criticism of the current version of the Labour party must mean I’m some love-child of Thatcher and in no way could I actually have more socialist leanings than the good Captain.

Isn’t it easy, this black and white politics thing?

Oh and BTW, do the ‘we’ mind you speaking for them or is it the royal we you refer to?

‘Sorry, you’ve lost me. Do the Tories have policies ?’

Yes they do, their own insurance policies.