It’s important that we all get the opportunity to tell the Prime Minister to eff off once in our lives.

I think that bloke needs to learn some bedside manners coming in ranting like that in front of patients, he came across as a bigger **** than what Cameron is.

I think that he is right to get them out asap. He was unhappy with the jouralists etc who were not obeying the rules which risks infection etc… Although he could have done it in a less aggressive way in front of the PM!

Presumably the excercise was cleared with the hospital in the first place. Not much of a “Senior Registrar” if he didn’t know about it and if he did – well, what a prat.

I thought CallMeDave responded quite well, in the circumstances…

Much as I like to see Dave getting told to eff off, it did strike me as a bit over the top…FFS, he was wearing a bow-tie. I can only imagine…

The looks of embarrassment on the faces of everyone are quite funny though.

Agreed, people are suppose to grovel whilst in the presence of the PM, not treat him and his entourage as if they were nothing more than mere mortals. Specially when they are on the extremely important business of photo opportunities, to show how much the PM cares about the health service he is in the process of shafting.

Top notch. Good work that mayn. 😀

Those self-serving scum have a **** cheek going into an NHS hospital anyway. If I’d bin there I wooduv thrown the contents of me bedpan at ’em. ****s.

LOL @ the tagger ! …..as I wrote my post I thought, I can’t believe I’m actually defending some poncey shouty geezer in a bow tie – what’s the world coming to eh ? Apparently it was predictable ! 😀

Good on him, we get it drilled continually about cross infection and how if a patient get an infection with 3 days of going into hospital they’ll question us to see it we followed protocols. Now given we get call to patients covered in they’re own shit, piss, vomit and upside down in a ditch we have to make sure that we put alco-gel on before donning gloves. You then get them into hospital and visitors wander around coughing and spluttering ignoring guidelines. He has a point he put it across rather strongly but good on him.

Just showed the Doc wife this and she was happy to explain that all the senior Registrars / Consultants (along with everyone else) have been forced to drop their ties, sleeves below the elbows, watches, rings et all due to the infection campaigns, and given their love of officialdom, and formality its a bit of a sore point for many.

And given they are going to all the effort, and some yobby journos and PR persons come traipsing through can understand his frustrations … but maybe not his delivery method.

Couldnt help but smirk when he insisted on introducing himself as a senior registrar prior to bollocking them – they’re all as bad as one another, to be frank.

Mighty it’s not so much that as the way it’s done where they’re are clearly flaws in the system and more concerning matters. However, there’s figures been set to achieve so boxes have to be picked and money spent on ticking these boxes that possibly could be spent elsewhere.

Pathetic.

What is? (Steady the buffs).

Completely agree DRAC, as im sure the consultant bollocking everyone out does, thats part of the frustration of the Health professionals.

ie. “Why do I have to wear this shirt that makes me look like a first year medical student so you prats can tick the box then come traipsing in here full of supposed bacteria ridden cross transference items of dressage”.

imo he just came over as a senior prat ranting like that. Very unprofessional.

I don’t think he said registrar – and he’s a pretty old one if he is

I suspect he said senior surgeon (ie consultant by implication), though a bit muffled. Guessing nobody told him the big nobs were visiting and he’s a bit miffed about it 😆

Given that the geezers in suits were effectively just visitors, they’d have no right to ask them to roll up their sleeves and they weren’t going near patients anyway – Dave & his chimp both had a go at rolling up

Makes no odds though – excellent rant !

imo he just came over as a senior prat
. Very unprofessional.

I would agree. 😈

Pathetic.

I totally agree, Flashy.

What Cameron and his little pet are doing in an NHS hospital in the first place is just disgusting.

I totally agree, Flashy.

What Cameron and his little pet are doing in an NHS hospital in the first place is just disgusting.

Probably looking for stuff to sell on e-bay …

Innit though!

Can’t work out which is worser though; Cameron for being a Selfservative, or Clegg for being a deceitful, conniving, lying hypocritical shyster….

Had to laugh at the woman gently leading the ranting consultant away saying ‘come talk to me’

Right to complain about people not following procedure but ranting like that makes him look like a t***. He could have come in and gently explained why it was required rather than acting upset just because he has to wear short sleeves.

However would we be talking about it now if he hadn’t flown off the handle?

Hospitals are not for screen shots especially featuring people who arte trying to sell them off for the least money to their mates, good on that consultant.

heres a spin. How would we react if the boffins said “due to health and safety all cyclists must now wear lycra to reduce incidence of clothing becoming caught in equipment”

I for one would be ranting my nut off if Cameron came waltzing across in a set of baggies while I was making testicular shadow puppets !!!

Poor chap misses his cufflinks to go with his bow tie……..

I wonder if there was a bit of conversation before that? it’d be a strange way to kick off but if he’d already run into PR people/assistants saying “Don’t go in there” then storming the castle would be more appropriate.

Cameron did well I thought tbh. Clegg looked like he was lost at sea.

It struck me that he felt his toes had been trodden on. Perhaps a discourteous hospital PR bureaucrat authorised the filmed interview without his say-so (as head of the ward/unit), and he got the hump, maybe felt undermined or a little disrespected. Ruffled feathers and all that. I guess you can’t fault him for placing his patients first. It lacked charm but overall I thought “fair play to you mate”.

Nice clean ward and relativeley young patients in it.

Wonder what it was he was talking to the dude in the compression stockings about?

“Well, for the princely sum of ‘no rise to your taxes’ I, your caring sharing prime minister can offer you excatly the same treatment in a choice of treatment centres, some of which may be almost as close to your home as you local district general hospital.

“You can be cared for by enthusiatic but less experienced teams in a non-acute hospital-shaped building, in which should you get serious complications overnight, you will be seen by one generic SHO before being scooped into an ambulance and taken to a proper hospital.
….where you won’t be seen at night by a specialist any more because the selling off of less acute specialities means there is less expertise available round the clock to care for the really bad cases in your field of illness. “

The consultant comes across as a bit frazzled to put it kindly, but I suspect that ^^ is what his rant is really about…

A spokeswoman for Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust said: “Arrangements for today’s visit were entirely consistent with the Trust’s infection control policy.
“One individual member of staff expressed concern with one element of the infection control measures employed, but this was not a view shared by the wider team.”

What a tool.

What happened to my tagger ? 🙁

Got modded, innit?

All part of the new-type Respect campaign.

What “Respect campaign” ? …….have we got to be nice to each other ? 😯

What was it, btw?

What, are you pretending it wasn’t you ? 😉

It just said ‘predictablernie’. I usually get ‘boringernie’ or simular ……the tagger obviously felt a little more creative today.

EDIT : All this moderation is doing my head in……posts which I reply to are disappearing 😕

For pure comedy value that video gets a 10 out of 10, cameron was funny. Poor chap on the bed being surrounded by them too, I reckon he sent a distress signal to the surgeon who just came in to see him and get rid of the politicians 😀

🙂

Trust an orthopaedic surgeon to pull a stunt like that! However, the thing is that all that bare below the elbows stuff is not backed up by any evidence that it does actually reduce infection rates. But the NHS has it as a policy because it looks good to the public and media. So if clinicians are required to go along with this charade then EVERYONE should have to play the game. I suspect that was the point he was trying to make in typical orthopaedic bull-in-a-china-shop style.

Infection rates are reduced by hand washing and by not having hospital bed occupancy rates approaching 100% .

For some more orthopaedic humour check out “orthopaedics versus anaesthetics” on you tube.

Consultant was perfectly right to do this.

If it is a policy to prevent infection ( and Cameron had met the policy) then everyone should do so and the doc is perfectly within his rights to enforce the rules. The senior nurse should have done so.

Doc was a stroppy twonk – he could have done it more professionally.

I have seen politicians thrown out of hospitals for breaking rules and I myself protested over political stunts in hospitals