Is this going to materialise? In the meantime are there any other ‘budget’ 29er frames similar, as in a slacker geometry for 100-120mm forks?

Kinesis Maxlight FF29?

Before March next year apparently.

ishereis a prototype one for sale on fleabay now item #291010617538 £399 and apparently sold as seen – as though this implies something… Not sure you can opt out of sale of goods act…
Looks OK

Looks good. You are right about the sold as seen bit though…. LOL!

ishereis a prototype one for sale on fleabay now item #291010617538 £399 and apparently sold as seen – as though this implies something… Not sure you can opt out of sale of goods act…
Looks OK

That’s a USA made SAPA one. Not anything like the production one we are working on.

In the classifieds? not far off with 120’s

Check the Pinnacle Ramin from Evans. Short chain stays and 68 degree head angle. £200. Designed by JamesO from these parts. Really nice. Just built one into a bike for my nephew. He is well chuffed. Only draw back is the 27.2 seat post size is not very dropper friendly.

There always the voodoo bizango (full bike only)

Kinesis Maxlight FF29?

Nice bike but not slack; 70 degree ha with 120mm fork. This on the other hand…

http://zealousbikeco.com/?portfolio=division-frameset

Check the Pinnacle Ramin from Evans. Short chain stays and 68 degree head angle

Have ridden a mates one, good bike, very very good bike….would definitely consider it if i was buying another hardtail….68 degree HA plus 29er wheels made everything seem too easy, felt like cheating!

This on the other hand…

http://zealousbikeco.com/?portfolio=division-frameset

Wow, so much ugly in one frame!

Check the Pinnacle Ramin from Evans. Short chain stays and 68 degree head angle. Only draw back is the 27.2 seat post size is not very dropper friendly.

Ah-ha. Now 31.6 seat tube and 5mm shorter stays on 2015 bikes. Fine at 120mm.

Ah-ha. Now 31.6 seat tube and 5mm shorter stays on 2015 bikes. Fine at 120mm

Go on. Make my day. Do a ss version as well that maintains the short stays?

If the tensioner options work out, we may well do that.

Go on. Make my day. Do a ss version as well that maintains the short stays?

Ran a Surly Singulator on my Yelli Screamy, it worked fine.

And you’re right FF29 is not slack.

I’d like to try on of those Divisions.

http://slam69.co.uk/dartmoor-primal-29-29-2014-pre-order-now-7452-p.asp

Those Dartmoor frames, and the stuff that JamesO is doing at Evans is cool.
Future bright for great 29er frames.

Any update then Brant on the Fireline Alloy frame?

Production planned for late Feb, so here in April all being well.

Anyone got any pics of one of those Dartmmor Primal frames built up or know the weight?

Couldn’t find any details other than that link. I was a bit disappointed by the qr backend but for that price and a tapered head tube I’ll be ordering one when they’re in stock!