I was looking at the Surly Pugsley thread further down the page. i found this:

mtbr snow bike link

Scroll down and you will see a Lynskey built Ti456 rip off with large tyre clearance for the endomorph tyres and a helix downtube. Its even got the new (ugly) disc brake brace.

Interesting………………..

a Lynskey built Ti456 rip off

LOL.

I meant it is also built by Lynskey like the Ti456, rather than copied and built by another frame builder, i.e. they have taken Brant's basic design and tweaked it and another manufacturer is selling under its own name.

Some people are so pedantic.. 🙄

i think the tweaking might make it not a 456

Huh? Surely it's just a Lynskey with clearance for fat tyres then, not a 456 at all!?

Is it not a variation of the Lynskey Pro29???

They have ripped off their own design!

You might find that there's a huge difference in the two frame designs.

🙄 back @ ya. 😉

LOL – it's a Fatback – they've been making Ti fatbikes for a while – considering it's a 29er – I don't see how they could have copied a Ti 456. It has 165mm rear hubs 135mm front hubs, that spiral downtube thingy, 100mm BB, 4" tyre clearance – yep it's just like an On-One LOL.