i think i am gonna book a offroad day somewhere and see how i go.
the idea of riding on the road does not appeal at all.
i am so frustrated at not being able to ride i could **** scream
i deffo need a release
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thinking of packing in cycling and taking up motorcycling.
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laning is great defo do a direct access course its a great course. i did alot of mx and laning then road bikes still came back to mountain bikes again though. i love the feeling of jumps on mtbs theres never any freewheeling with mx its either gas or brake thats it - gets pretty knackering
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I wouldnt bother with an off road school just yet
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Ton.
Not trying to put you off but riding a motorbike off road on any kind of interesting trails is far more physicaly demanding that pootling around on a mountainbike.
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no it isnt.
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Motor powered bikes is way better
FACT!
(but mtb is still awesome!)
Posted 5 months ago # -
Ton.
Not trying to put you off but riding a motorbike off road on any kind of interesting trails is far more physicaly demanding that pootling around on a mountainbike.
What SSStu said
I've only dabbled a few times riding a motorbike offroad, not competed like he used to, can definitely say that riding a motorbike offroad properly is extremely physically demanding, much more so than general mountain biking. It shocked me to be quite honest, as I'd been mountain biking and had a motorbike on road for many years when I first had a go offroad on a motorbike properly, but take my word for it, only the fit and the strong need apply!
Now this may sound the absolute antithesis of what most people on here are into, but have you tried Golf? Being serious, you'd be amazed how much exercise you get on average round of Golf (you'll walk 4 or 5 miles easily) but it's relatively relaxed exercise, but cos you're always concentrating on the ball and where you've hit it, you don't notice how much you've done til you get back in the car afterwards and you're pooped!
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Ton,
I'd echo what Sancho has said. Whilst some forms of off road motorbiking are indeed very strenous and physically demanding, it doesn't have to be.
I'd strongly suggest taking Sancho up on his offer to let you have a ride on one of his bikes. Don't discount it until you've at least had a go!
Cheers
BenPosted 5 months ago # -
I would echo what a few others have said and give trials a go.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnA3rlqylTs
http://www.horsforthtrials.co.uk/Posted 5 months ago # -
Sancho - Member
no it isnt.
Sounds to me like you don't ride anything interesting.
Go and ride a few British/European/Word championships and you might change your mind.
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Sancho - Member
no it isnt.
I did an enduro about 10 years ago (the off-road motorbike version) physically the hardest thing I've ever done
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Proper enduro riding will wreck you, but that's at the far end of the spectrum. Plenty of fun to be had on tamer trails/green lanes if you go at a steady pace. A big trailie style bike like the Honda Africa Twin would suit a big lump like you perfectly (no offence like). Half decent both on* and off-road.
*not really, but you'll hardly be scratchin'
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Oh here we go, because I try to explain to Tony that riding a dirt bike on some easy trails isnt going to be as demanding as riding a mountain bike which it isnt, then you make a **** assumption that I cant ride a dirt bike on any difficult trails.
Ive been racing Clubman enduro for the last fifteen years across the UK and Europe.Stu get back in your box and keep your stupid mouth shut.
Im trying to give Tony some advice and have offered some support.
Try being a bit constructive rather than wanking off behind your keyboard.Posted 5 months ago # -
See this bloke riding up a rocky climb - how hard is it to do this? Looks great fun tbh - is that something you could do after 6 months riding or is it way beyond that?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL24tmpx9Dc(Think Alan Partridge is spectating - Dan! Dan!)
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how hard is it to do this?
VERY.... very very very.
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Stu's just tossing his knob cos he's got a couple of ISDE medals and wants everyone to know how tough he is.
Truth is, it's like mountainbiking- the guys that ride the Great Divide, puffer et al could spout on here about how tough mountain biking is, but really, that's just the extreme.
Get yourself a trailie, scout out some maps, join a club and have a Sunday bimble. I imagine all you want to do is get out there in the hills, see some scenery and yak with mates. Not too demanding on you, just stick to the easier stuff.
Steer clear of heavier bikes- odds are you're going to either have to pick the bike up one day, or else try and manhandle it somewhere you can't ride, but otherwise just have a go and see what you think- as usual the doom mongers are full of shit.Posted 5 months ago # -
Ton
It's like everything else, offroading can be as hard or easy as you want it to be. I would regard myself as pretty unfit and can state quite categorically that there are trails I could take very easily on an enduro bike that would have me puffing like a billy goat on the mtb. With your condition (and probable mindset) it will be very difficult for you not to get carried away but as long as you keep yourself in check it would be no problem to plant your bum on the seat and take it easy.
I think your main issue might be finding enough access in your area to keep you interested but it is much easier to link what is available with an engine!
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Oooo someones a little uptight today.
you make a **** assumption that I cant ride a dirt bike on any difficult trails.
Ive been racing Clubman enduro
So I was right then.
LOLZ @ vinnyeh.
Bronze, silver and gold as it goes.
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Lol at the Partridge soundtrack
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This thread isnt about you, you dick, its about Tony and his interest in trying some off road motorbiking.
No-one cares about your abilities.
Try putting something forward and practical to the OP
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Now now now.
No need for insults.
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Go **** yourself
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Most enlightening.
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Uh oh - degenerating into willy waving and insults.
Like MTBing offraod motorcycling is a huge range. Get a pootling about bike and pootle about on easy trails then its not that hard work. Race or try to ride tricky terrain at race pace it is.
It depends what Ton wants to do. I assumed it would be about getting out into the countryside - so easy green lanes pootle. I didn't think he wanted to race enduro. So soft small and especially LOW bike makes it all easier
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So soft small and especially LOW bike makes it all easier
Have you seen the size of Tony? No offence like Ton.
That isn't going to work very well.
Posted 5 months ago # -
comparativly so SSWT perhaps. Meaning no need for a ten foot tall 60 bhp enduro bike
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Meaning no need for a ten foot tall 60 bhp enduro bike
That'd make a crap enduro bike for anyone.Even Knighter.
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TJ's right.
Racing enduro (or MX - I did three years and was utterly shattered in all the time I was doing it) is astonishingly hard work, and costs a load. You've got the bike, the repairs, the travel, the need for a pressure washer/trailer/van etc. I spent £10k in 3 years and was scratching around in the bottom third of the field a lot of the time.
Green laning, on the other hand, requires nothing more than a low-powered road-legal bike (TTR 250 a good and cheap call) and an ability to smile when you crash, which you will. Only really works if you have good riding nearby, otherwise you'll spend hours riding to your start point.
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Stu
if you cant be constructive on this, try not saying anything.Get down from your smug little world and engage with the OP, and other people trying to be practical for the post.
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I'm quite interested in this, having health problems which limit my mountain biking pretty severely a lot of the time. I can see racing Enduros etc being really hard, but I've seen quite a few motorbikes on trails in the Lakes when out mountain biking - can't see how it's that strenuous in comparison on similar trails.
Of course those trails would never be interesting enough for some of the heroes on here (:swoon:), but might well be what Ton would like to do.
I've noticed though that a lot of them are quite slow on descents (even I often overtake them), are they just beginners, or are the bikes not as manouverable due to extra weight or something?
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Sorry I didn't realise you were a moderator.
I'm sure Ton could work out where to ask if he wanted any real advice.Posted 5 months ago # -
As far as I can see, he is getting advice Stu but he isn't about to go racing,leave mud plumes in his wake or try to be the next Lampkin - he just wants to get out there and enjoy the countryside on two wheels.
If you, with your vast experience and knowledge, could recommend a bike that would suit him, that would be really useful.
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If you, with your vast experience and knowledge, could recommend a bike that would suit him,
I'd recommend that he goes on the TRF forum or similar and asks people of similar build.
I'd also recommend trying to find the local offroad clubs and talking to people face to face.
They're generaly quite a friendly bunch.I think it might help if Tony were to be a bit more specific about what he wanted to do on the bike.
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I think Tony has given up on the idea judging by his reply on page 1.
It's a shame as I would have thought there are loads of offroad routes he could do in his area, which with the right bike would be a lot less strain than an hour on an mtb, especially if you consider his other option was an electric bike.
Maybe the best way would be if someone could offer a ride on private land to test the water? There is an offroad day training down his way for £160 all-in but I can't remember the name of the company........
<runs off to Google>Posted 5 months ago # -
Woody, that is what I have been trying to offer Tony from the start, a session at Tong to try it out.
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