That's a strange attitude mike. Speaking for myself, I'm not grumpy, Just observing a trend an posting to promote discussion. Shermer75's post highlights the issue does it not?
The rising cost of biking....
Honestly Kryton? There is a thread every couple of months from people saying things are more expensive/rip off. Half of the people agree it is half don't then someone points out that you can still buy cheap bikes and second hand. Maybe your not grumpy but there are plenty who are and keen to point out that everything is a rip off.
I've recently downgraded.. Loving the world, although my back wheel (from the tip) is a bit heavy and is letting the bike down..
The only other downside is the frame which although steel and the same weight as my soul, has a much harsher front end due to the inferior tube set..
still, I'm still getting pb's, I can leave my bike locked up in town or outside the house without fear of it getting robbed, and most importantly.. I love riding it, even if the sum of it's parts cost less than the crank on my previous bike
its all relative really, what price can you put on enjoyment, if i added up the money ive spent on curries n strongbow over the years, and how much a pint costs these days, i would probably stop going out, doesnt really matter how much you spend, as long as you get the enjoyment out of it, then its worth its weight in gold, the memories alone are worth the expense.
Yes mike - speaking for myself as I said. Like many, I have a ss which cost the princely sum of £190 which I enjoy a lot, and a bottom end road bike bike which I very much enjoy, set pbs on and have trained on all summer.
I'm not disputing we can't enjoy cheaper kit, I'm just commenting that like for like, bike parts/bikes cost has has an exponential rise.
Vis a Vis - if my asr5 disappeared over night, I'd happily by that canyon I listed earlier, but wouldn't dream of replacing it with a new asr5 or sb75 at today's cost. Second hand even would mean a cash purchase probably which is hard even at half retail. Can I replace an xt / Thompson shod Asr5 for less than 2k easily? No. P'raps by hunting the classifieds only.
Just as a reflection, I was talking in the office today about the fact that, with car advertising more often and not the best looking and most appealing car is advertised - of course - to attract buyers. But how many people actually by one?
Same with bikes - i love to know the ratio of people who read them actually buy a 4-8k bike, continual xtr upgrades or replacement these days.
It'd be nice for stw to perhaps do a working class "month" edition of the mag.
IIRC, the Japanese Yen played catch up on exchange rates in 2007/8 when the global market was bullish enough to allow it and their economy had started growing after years of flat-lining. This had a substantial impact on prices, particularly for Shimano, which started to have a knock on effect on bikes. The subsequent downturn left plenty of surplus stock around which negated the impact for some time but eventually supply became more aligned with demand and the higher prices stuck.
There has been a subsequent market downturn on the Yen but, as you'd expect, pricing from the Japanese manufacturers hasn't changed to reflect this reduction.
Just a thought Kryton,the ASR5 Race* retailed at £3,800 in '11 and is only £95 dearer now.
*standard Yeti 'race' spec.
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