The Indians don't like Clarkson! (Daily Wail and Top Gear content)

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The Indians don't like Clarkson! (Daily Wail and Top Gear content)

90 posts & 41 voices | Started 4 months ago by ohnohesback | Latest reply from stilltortoise

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joao3v16 - Member

And then there's the PC do-gooders who come out with nonsense like not using the word Christmas because it's offensive to Muslims

Linky or it's not true.

There's been numerous instances over the past few years. I can't be bothered finding any links.

This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures ... I assumed Tesco had been extensively picketed by outraged Muslims, Hindu's, Jews etc ... Apparently not though - turns out some idiot Tesco employee(s) decided that after decades of being perfectly acceptable they're suddenly massively offensive to all other religions in the universe, so took it upon themselves to save us all from drowning in our own outrage and horror at seeing an illustration of a baby/shepherds/wisemen/angel ... because of course we're all incapable of just overlooking stuff we're not interested in

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will - Member

Elfinsafety - Member
I watched it hoping to see a unique and original insight into India, and how the nation is developing and changing and that, as well as what a fascinating wonderful country it is, like they did with the Vietnam special (their best programme ever, imo).

Really? You watched Top Gear to get a serious view on a country?

That's like watching Pron to learn about a loving relationship.

Posted 4 months ago #
aracer - Member

I can't be bothered finding any links.

Ah - it's not true then.

This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures

Well interestingly enough I decided to do your research for you. A google for "tesco christmas cards" came up with this article (apologies for the source), "Tesco said: ‘Our religious Christmas card range has increased for the second year running.’"

Posted 4 months ago #
MrSalmon - Member

This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures ... I assumed Tesco had been extensively picketed by outraged Muslims, Hindu's, Jews etc ... Apparently not though - turns out some idiot Tesco employee(s) decided that after decades of being perfectly acceptable they're suddenly massively offensive to all other religions in the universe, so took it upon themselves

So it wasn't Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures then?

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Elfinsafety - Member

Really? You watched Top Gear to get a serious view on a country?

I assumed, following the excellent Vietnam special, that the India one might be similar in quality. Sadly I assumed wrongly.

I wazunt going to take it all that seriously, no. It's Top Gear. But I din't expect it to be quite as pathetically crap as it turned out.

Posted 4 months ago #
jools182 - Member

Yeah but if you follow that kind of philosophy to it's conclusion, then it's ok to have proper racist ranting nutters etc broadcasting stuff on telly? Cos whilst many will be offended, some viewers might not be. And because some might not be, and want to watch that, we as a society should allow it?

IE, no censorship at all?

What if someone thinks it's ok to broadcast hardcore porn at the same time your kids are coming home and expecting to watch CeeBeebies or whatever?

It's a bit of a jump from staged puerile nonsense to hardcore porn

Posted 4 months ago #
Elfinsafety - Member

No, it's about an 'I want to watch what I want and I don't care if it offends anyone' type attitude. If you take it to it's conclusion, then why not just allow folk to broadcast what they want, as if they have an audience who want to watch it, then it's perfectly valid, no?

Where do you draw the line, is the point here.

Posted 4 months ago #
PJM1974 - Member

I say, these biscuits are bloody nice. Garibaldi?

Posted 4 months ago #
stilltortoise - Member

Where do you draw the line

After Clarkson and Top Gear but before broadcasting hardcore pron at CBeebies time. Next question

Posted 4 months ago #
16stonepig - Member

I ****ing hate that "Turn it off if you don't like it" argument. I watched it, hoping it would be good. It wasn't. I have every right to say it wasn't good.

I have to agree with Elfin here. They have made some staggeringly good TV before - the Vietnam special, the original "race" where they took the DB9 to the Alps etc. - but this one was lazy, predictable, transparent faux-buffoonery.

There was one bit that had potential - the all-comers Indian hill climb. If they had strung that out a bit more, got a few more runners, and actually spent some time focussing on the locals there, it would have been fun, and insightful in a light way. But instead, they had to make it about that duo of idiots and their egos, and James May. I actually like May - his other programs are routinely brilliant.

Posted 4 months ago #
Elfinsafety - Member

So you do want censorship then?

So, who decides what's acceptable or not?

Posted 4 months ago #
stilltortoise - Member

So you do want censorship then?

Me? Yes, but that said I'm in the camp who thinks TG is usually quite good but that the recent special was rubbish. NOthing to do with censorship, just quality control.

So, who decides what's acceptable or not?

The Board of Censors or whatever they're called. It's worked in the film and gaming industry for quite some time now (although that could start a whole new debate).

Posted 4 months ago #
Milkie - Member

I had to laugh at the title "The Indians don't like Clarkson!".. Wow they feel the same way as about 90% of the UK population!

Posted 4 months ago #
jools182 - Member

I don't have a problem with people saying it was a poor episode

However there are people who consistently say Top Gear is shite, yet still seem to watch it just to have a moan

Posted 4 months ago #
Elfinsafety - Member

The Board of Censors or whatever they're called. It's worked in the film and gaming industry for quite some time now (although that could start a whole new debate).

And what criteria do they use to decide what is, or isn't, acceptable?

My point is, it doesn't mean that just because one person doesn't find something objectionable, that it isn't. And vice versa.

Posted 4 months ago #
joao3v16 - Member

The Indians don't like Clarkson!

Weren't a load of people claiming 'racism' the other week when that female mp lady woman said "whites always do something or other"*

(*can't be bothered looking the detail of that up either)

Posted 4 months ago #
aracer - Member

However there are people who consistently say Top Gear is shite, yet still seem to watch it just to have a moan

That would be a fact like Tesco not selling religious Christmas cards?

Posted 4 months ago #
16stonepig - Member

That would be a fact like Tesco not selling religious Christmas cards?

Just because it's not true doesn't mean it's not a fact! There are far too many people worrying these days about things like "truth" and "evidence".

Posted 4 months ago #
Junkyard - Member

However there are people who consistently say Top Gear is shite, yet still seem to watch it just to have a moan

Most on here seem to watch it and say it has gone downhill and that this was a poor episode

Posted 4 months ago #
stilltortoise - Member

My point is, it doesn't mean that just because one person doesn't find something objectionable, that it isn't. And vice versa.

Well, d'uh, as the youngsters are prone to say. Stating the bleedin' obvious aren't we? We can't expect any censorship body to coincide with everyone's views on what is and isn't objectionable, but we do at least have a good balance...most of the time.

Posted 4 months ago #