You missed the bit where the lives of potentially 1000s of women were just improved.

You think jambot gives a toss about that?

This is going to be fun to watch. Sure the DUP might not have to vote on it now, but it’s just been introduced by a government they have a deal with. I’m not sure I’d describe that as a trivial defeat – but then I have a reasonable grasp on reality. In any case, at the first attempt Labour are driving government policy.

That’s cute, jambs thinks there’s a plan!

But there is, it’s called the HofGD Strategy (“Hang on for Grim Death”) 8)

@kimbers yes its a good thing but that’s not why the Labour Party introduced it is it ?

Coalition / minority government is always a mess with the capacity for strange results like the Lib Dems supporting £9k tuition fees.

You think jambot gives a toss about that?

What improves lives is living in a financially stable and viable country, more Germany/Switzerland less Greece. Corbyn/McDonnell would make the incompetence of Brown post 2007 looks like the merest blip

its a good thing but that’s not why the Labour Party introduced it is it ?

Yes that is why they introduced it
The fact it harmed the Tories new alliance was undoubtedly a consideration / pleasant bonus but they did not do it just to piss of tories/annoy the DUP

Ah, not one which is attempting to cut ties with its closest trading partners then?

@aracer as you know I am firmly of the belief that our best trading opportunities lie far from Europe. We are a very very good customer for them, the other way round really not so much

I know what your beliefs are, but to get to the nirvana you want involves a period of instability somewhat greater and longer than that of a Corbyn/McDonnell government (even if you are right about that). Or are you going to deny the current situation?

Corbyn/McDonnell would make the incompetence of Brown post 2007 looks like the merest blip

Based on what?

tbh we all know it will be economically worse in the short run – even you accepted that you failed to define exactly what you meant or how long it lasted- its just that some think it is a price worth paying

only the truly optimistic [ or deranged] think we will be better off ditching a free trade deal with our biggest trading partner ,whom we trade 43% of our exports with and are critical to our supply lines, and will reach economic nirvana this way

not one report, that was not written by a brexie, agrees with your assessment NOT ONE.

It was a backbench amendment by a Labour MP not the official opposition amendment, like the one for staying in the single market which has meant Corbyn has had to fire another 5 ish front benchers for voting against policy.

you keep clutching at those straws

one day the tories will realise you cannot defend the tories by simply just attacking corbyn you need to explain how string and stable she is and how wonderfully string and stable the agreement is with the DUP

SO one vote and one compromise is what you have to work with so far

Go on give it your best shot

What improves lives is living in a financially stable and viable country

So, the women who wanted an abortion but couldn’t get one should have just shut up and concentrated on their financial security. You really are a piece of work 🙁

With a strong and stable leader, rather than a weak and wobbly one

the northern irish are financially better off as a result of weak and wobbly so ever cloud eh

Maybe all those disabled people driven to suicide by Tory policy forgot how viable the economy was?

A massive increase in homelessness is surely a sign of a strong economy.

Junkyard – lazarus

the northern irish are financially better off as a result of weak and wobbly so ever cloud eh

Weak and wobbly was personally responsible for burning £490 million so her church and orange order buddies could feather their nests. She also shares responsibility (along with her party) for accepting a bribe in order to support the leave campaign – effectively cutting off at least £2billion a year Northern Ireland receives from the EU.

But yeah, never mind all that. Better off. FFS.

The right wingers on here trying to spin this are hilarious. Its a humiliation for both the tories and the DUP.

We all love cats, so I thought of this interesting question for jamba, ninfan and chewy. What colour is this cat:

Hint: Theresa says it is black.

It looks strong.

IS it a dog?

Its a humiliation for both the tories and the DUP.

is not really its the first salvo and it showed the divisions which will likely embolden people and probably lead to more defeats and then humiliation

Oh I think it is Junkyard. May has to find a load more money from her magic money tree to ensure these women can get terminations and creat policy on the hoof. the DUP will be furious as they have tried to prevent NI women travelling to Scotland for terminations.

Sure she avoided losing the vote but at what cost?

May has to find a load more money from her magic money tree to ensure these women can get terminations and creat policy on the hoof. the DUP will be furious as they have tried to prevent NI women travelling to Scotland for terminations.

Surely if they are getting them done in Scotland then it means that Sturgeon needs to find the money to pay for it, not Maggie May?

Woosh – NI women have been travelling to Scotland for terminations – and usually the scots NHS paid for it. this has been going on for years. The DUP tried to stop it.

Now after Mays humiliating climbdown the english NHS will also pay for women from NI to travel to England for terminations

NI women have been travelling to Scotland for terminations – and usually the scots NHS paid for it. this has been going on for years.

They certainly weren’t funding it as of last year:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/17/nicola-sturgeon-offers-help-to-northern-irish-women-seeking-abortions

Are we including the £100m + taxpayer expense of the last shambolic election in May’s tab?

No wonder the debt goes up so high under Tory govs, it’s more a result of their incompetence than their policies !

When is someone going to put her out of our misery?

When is someone going to put her out of our misery?

When someones ambition outweighs their common sense or the political scene changes.

So about 3 days? 😆

When is someone going to put her out of our misery?

Just before the next election.

All the bad press is going to be attached to her. Then she’ll be allowed to bail out at the last minute and someone more popular[1] will take over with a clean sheet.

It’s going to be an excruciating few months or years for her. …and a humiliating party conference.

Unlike everyone else in the UK I have some sympathy for her. Her decisions weren’t actually bad. Calling an election when she had a tiny majority and Labour was on the back foot was a good call IMHO. Sacrificing a few seats to sort out social care was a good call too IMHO and can only have been done for the best of reasons. Unfortunately, in hindsight it was all utterly disasterous for party and country. 😀

She did warn us that if we didn’t vote for her there would be a coalition of chaos and she was right.

[1] Although no obvious candidates spring to mind.

Journalist: “What could possibly derail your government’s programme, Prime Minister?”

Harold Macmillan: “Events, dear boy. Events…”