andy - where? Hills?
Seriously I lived in whalley Range and although I could get down to the Mersey and cycle along it cycling out into the countryside was a long way and not great riding once you got there. The urban sprawl is huge as well.
andy - where? Hills?
Seriously I lived in whalley Range and although I could get down to the Mersey and cycle along it cycling out into the countryside was a long way and not great riding once you got there. The urban sprawl is huge as well.
many hills. Calderdale, Saddleworth, the Peaks.
TandemJeremy - Member
I lived in Manchester for a decade and its rubbish for cycling. Very little good stuff to cycle to from the city, huge urban sprawl. Not a bad place to live but a long way down the list for a MTBer.
load of bollocks mate. i live in chorlton and can ride from here and get out through stockport and in the hills within 25-30 mins. granted a little bit of tarmac, but still easily done. north manchester is surrounded by the pennines.
Sheffield and Manchester should go in room 101. Flatcity- both of them.
You'd be going some to cycle from Chorlton through Stockport to the Peaks in 30 mins IMHO... Manchester definitely has the feeling of taking some time to get out of, particularly down the A6. Sheffield on the other hand just stops dead 3 miles west of the centre, at the Peak District boundary.
Having lived in both, I'm torn.. Manchester is a big city with more opportunities, Sheffield is in some ways a nicer place to live in that the good bits are both nearer the centre and nearer the countryside - and it has hills.
If we can include places we've visited, I'm going to vote for Seattle. Though Cambridge, Mass. is nice too (less outdoorsy though).
I've noticed all the comments are based on ability to RIDE out of the city rather than on the city itself
Christchurch or Wellington in NZ
Right - I've looked into the price of a round the world ticket and shortlisted a few stops on route that are on the list. I'm thinking NZ, Oz, USA, Canada. Maybe a few others. Schools, Healthcare, Things to Do being high on the list.
Found this in an article too, but don't know how biased it is:
The world's top cities offering the best quality of life
(New York City is the base city with a score of 100 points)
2009 Rank 2008 Rank City Country
1 =2 Vienna Austria
2 1 Zurich Switzerland
3 =2 Geneva Switzerland
=4 4 Vancouver Canada
=4 5 Auckland New Zealand
6 6 Düsseldorf Germany
7 =7 Munich Germany
8 =7 Frankfurt Germany
9 9 Bern Switzerland
10 10 Sydney Australia
11 11 Copenhagen Denmark
12 12 Wellington New Zealand
13 13 Amsterdam Netherlands
14 14 Brussels Belgium
15 15 Toronto Canada
+16 19 Ottawa Canada
=16 16 Berlin Germany
18 +17 Melbourne Australia
19 =17 Luxembourg Luxembourg
20 20 Stockholm Sweden
21 21 Perth Australia
22 22 Montreal Canada
23 23 Nürnberg Germany
24 24 Oslo Norway
25 =25 Dublin Ireland
=26 32 Singapore Singapore
=26 25 Calgary Canada
28 27 Hamburg Germany
29 28 Honolulu USA
=30 =29 San Francisco USA
=30 =29 Helsinki Finland
=30 =29 Adelaide Australia
32 32 Paris France
34 34 Brisbane Australia
=35 35 Tokyo Japan
=35 37 Boston USA
37 36 Lyon France
=38 38 Yokohama Japan
=38 38 London UK
40 40 Kobe Japan
41 41 Milan Italy
=42 48 Portland USA
=42 42 Barcelona Spain
=44 =44 Washington DC USA
=44 =44 Osaka Japan
=44 =44 Lisbon Portugal
=44 =44 Chicago USA
48 43 Madrid Spain
49 49 New York City USA
50 49 Seattle USA
Research by Mercer Consulting
Now all i have to do is allocate my own bike/lazing around scale to the shortlist, and rule out the places that require me to speak the lingo - out the window for Osaka then!
never lived in a city or a town or a village my closest neighbour is 300yds away and i like it
All cities blow goats hugely since they're full of people but I guess the least awful city I've ever lived in was Lincoln. It's really flat and shit and it's full of old people walking around like zombies but at least the inhabitants of that city accept their fate and get down to walking around like zombies unlike other more 'cosmopolitan' cities like the smoke that pretend they're brilliant.
+1 New York
hora - MemberBest? I'd love to live in Brugges or Edinburgh.
Ha, Brugges, tourist central with zero soul or any pm activity. You'd be pretty bored if you lived there. Far better city's in Belgium if you want a vibrant place to live.
Wells.
Tunbridge Wells? Thats got to be duller than Brugges.....
But thats missing the point. We went allover Brugges and the residential areas are a sea of calm. Plus easy accessible to France/other parts easily. Sooooooooooooooooooooo relaxing.
Glasgow was ace, wouldn't want to go back there now, but in the mid - late 90's it was home and it rocked.
Edinburgh, never really got on with it... moved out to a village outside after a year but it never gelled.
Stirling, fantastic place. Small enough that you can get out in no time, good folk and well placed for anything in Scotland.
Kirkwall, stretching the definition a bit... but it does have a Cathedral and did have a castle until Cromwell burned it down, magnificent. Best folk you could meet, there is *some* riding in the vicinity (not much altitude admitably, but there are worse places). Just love the place. I had planned to head back that way from Stirling, possibly via Inverness (which is a favourite place of mine)... but accidentally moved to the Lake District instead.
Maybe oneday.
Tunbridge Wells?
Lord, no.... Wells in Somerset. Population of roughly 10,000 - but it does have a cathedral.
Also, Bristol = the British San Francisco.
Bristol = the British San Francisco
Ah, the Clifton suspension bridge/Golden Gate reference?
The Bridge. The music scene. And the mud... hang on, I've not thought this through.
UK Edingburgh
Angers abroad
Belfast - best city in the world, best looking girls and best bars.
Luzern, Switzerland. Huge lakes, and mountains on the door step, a biking culture; road and off-road trails everywhere. And when you get to know some of them the natives can be friendly.
Hora - member
I was in Hudds town centre yesterday and I wanted to machine gun everyone in sight. Then open a camp for the remainder and experiment on them.
I think that says more about you than them Hora! (Lived in Holmfirth for 25 years)
I now live in Brighton, and although I get a bit nostalgic when I visit the folks up north I would NEVER go back, mainly due to the warmth/proximity to sea/variety of riding/access to other countries that living on the south coast gives you. I do miss proper beer though.
p.s. in a head to head between huddersfield and Croydon, Huddersfield would win every single time!
Belfast - best city in the world, best looking girls
Obviously a man who has never been to Copenhagen
p.s. in a head to head between huddersfield and Croydon, Huddersfield would win every single time!
Not saying much though is it, Croyden the ugliest town ever.
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