push their bikes up hills
Push?... Push?.. Are you out of your fu(king mind?!! What the hell are uplift days for? Push, what a pr1ck!
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STW and car driving
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Posted 2 years ago #
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havnt got time to answer , im road testing a toyota prius, so cant stop now to chat.
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i love driving...so i drive way to fast often...but i do keep an eye out for cyclists...and give them a wide birth...treat them like horses
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TandemJeremy - Member
Educator / analogue andy - thats what I don't understand why a cyclists forum is so full of petrol heads that will try to defend bad diving.I just find this quite astonishing on here that bad driving is lauded and considered to be normal
I just cannot understand the attitude from what is supposed to be a bunch of cyclists
I'm astonished that you're astonished. It seems that you expect STW forumites to be different to any other part of the population. Remember, lots of folk on here view cycling as an activity that takes place away from the public road.
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Its not that they are drivers - its the petrol head / clarkson tendency. I think they are more so than the general population and I expected less petrol head tendencies on a cyclist forum.
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TandemJeremy - Member
Its not that they are drivers - its the petrol head / clarkson tendency. I think they are more so than the general populationLook at the demographics. Average for STW is 36, male.......
I expected less petrol head tendencies on a cyclist forum.
As above
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TandemJeremy
but undertaking on the motorway - never acceptable
The usual absolute pish from you.
Tonight, driving home on a 3 lane motorway with a 70mph limit. I'm in the inside lane doing 60. In the middle lane up ahead there are 3 cars going about 50mph.
There's no way I'm swinging out from the inside lane across to the 3rd/ outside lane just to overtake these retards.
I'll just continue along safely undertaking them.
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Have a read of analogue andys posts on the other thread
Undertaking is never acceptable. You would be done if he saw you.
Numpty
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Infact see as you are hard of thinking here it is
AnalogueAndy - Member
"TandemJeremy - Member
Is undertaking justified then? "
Would take too long to explain the rare circumstances when overtaking on the left is permitted, with care, but no, 'undertaking' is not.
'Undertaking' is a very apt name for it. People don't expect to be passed on the inside and, if they do pull across, the 'undertaker' is at fault.
Far better as I already said, to hang back for a few seconds, avoid the conflict and invariably it sorts itself out.
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I'll just continue along
safelychancing my arm undertaking them.There, fixed it for you.
Undertaking is never "safe". You might get away with it (god knows, when I was a god of the road, I chanced it a few times, and thankfully got away with it), but it's not safe.
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According to someone on one of these threads the IAM said it was OK to flash someone and then undertake if they didn't move over.
Ta for sticking your head above the parapet Andy. Nice to have an authoritative voice back be up
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get a FPN for 'without due care and consideration'
Can you get an FPN for a Section 3 then? I thought that had to go to court.
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asked this very question of one of the Senior Observers during my IAM training.
He said that if the driver in the overtaking lane was doing 60 or less, he would perform an undertake if it was safe to do so. He would also give a toot on the horn and a single flash of the lights to alert the other driver of his presence.
So the IAM reckon it's OK to undertake....and analogueandy recommends the IAM to us all. Excellent.
As for all the petrolhead comments - I don't really consider myself a petrolhead although I am interested in cars.
I commute 120 miles/day so use my car a lot and get slowed up a lot by people who refuse to drive in an appropriate lane.AnalogueAndy so you would pull the person for undertaking & you would pull someone who was sat driving slowly in the wrong lane?
From your post, it sounds that you would pull the person for undertaking before you would pull someone for driving over an extended distance in an inappropriate lane? Is this so? And if that is the case, why would you pull the person doing the undertaking before pulling the person who was not driving in the correct lane? Surely you will have seen them already in the wrong lane and the only reason for the undertakers transgression would be to get around someone already committing an offence.....?Form all these posts, I get the impression that using poor lane discipline & driving outside the highway code in that respect is acceptable, but the heinous act of undertaking is totally unacceptable whatsoever.
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