an iphone 5 with a good view of the sky and recording at 1s intervals will be just as good as a garmin doing the same.

in fact I wouldnt be suprised if they are using the same GPS chip.

the quickest way to get a crap GPS track from my iphone is to stick it in my shorts pocket rather than a jersey pocket or top pocket of my bag.

Strava times can be all over the place. If its a route a i do regularly and I want to keep a good track of my time I use a humble watch

Margins? Pah, that’s no way to willy wave. 48.7mph average over 1.9 miles, now that’s worthy of willy waving:

http://app.strava.com/segments/1525328

I have worked on software where it uses GPS to obtain timing accuracy of 50 parts per billion. So GPS can accurately time.

But actually you are not talking about timing only, but location based at a specific time.

Couldn’t give a monkeys about Strava KOM’s due to the existence of sites like digital epo.

I just use it to compare between friends.

actually you are not talking about timing only, but location based at a specific time

QFTHU

Quite proud of this one:

Beacons Segment

Approx. 35% faster over an 18 minute segment if my maths is any good (probably not!). Ridden by a fair amount of fast locals too. Know the track well and just decided to hammer it one day in the middle of a big ride. Wasn’t thinking of KOM’s at all, just enjoyed thrashing myself for a while!! Had to open two gates on the way down so was spinning out on some of the smoother bits 😆

the longer the segment the better the likihood of the accuracy i.e. segments in the miles rather than meters..

I think that some people are forgetting that strava is actually only meant to be a bit of a laugh. You can’t take it seriously.

No you cant take Strava seriously (like my mate who gets well upset when I out strava him!). I mean, there is no way I can be KOM on Champery World Cup DH or Col De Coux climb (route de Barme)… yet I am 8) apparently. Got plenty of others, which I cant believe!

I think that some people are forgetting that strava is actually only meant to be a bit of a laugh. You can’t take it seriously.

Unlike the twonk on a carbon 29er and full race kit who started skidding behind us (to make a point I assume) and started yelling ‘move, rider coming through,etc, etc.’ on the Haldon red run this arvo.
He seemed non-plussed when we saw him still going flat out a bit later (we’d taken a side route with some nice singletrack so had overtaken him) and gave him a whoop and a ‘you can do eeet! Strava KOM yeah.’
The same kind of twonk who hoons it through the cafe area at full speed ignoring the no cycling signs. Because as we all know, a strava time is much more important than not running over a small child 🙄

superfli – Member

No you cant take Strava seriously (like my mate who gets well upset when I out strava him!). I mean, there is no way I can be KOM on Champery World Cup DH or Col De Coux climb (route de Barme)… yet I am apparently

I was looking at mine for fort william, thinking “That’s better than I expected really, who’s got the KOM?” Greg Minaar. Yeah I let him off easy that day

Strava…………like Viagra but better….turning small cocks into big cocks that you can boast about.

😉

edit : what’s the point as there are algorithms you can use that will adjust the gps/strava log to whatever time you desire.

The point is that you don’t use such tools 🙄 – if I wanted to I’m quite capable of writing code to do it myself rather than relying on some generic website (I’d written a bit of code to change laps in a GPX file before those sites existed and realised it would be possible). Still seem to have managed to rack up a few KOMs – though apparently that makes me a cock.

You could of course just ignore threads which from the title are clearly going to be about something you dislike.

On the longer segments thing, I took KOM on an 8 minute (for me) segment yesterday – the next best is over a minute down, so almost as good a % improvement as the short one I started this thread with, and I don’t think even the trolls can suggest that’s just down to inaccuracy of GPS.

I don’t necessarily dislike strava as it may be a very useful tool for personal development of your riding ability and fitness but i do take a dislike to the few times i’ve heard from very reliable sources regarding man made trails (7stanes) and egotistical wnakers riders who have started to shout “STRAVA” when behind a slower rider.

[quoteThe point is that you don’t use such tools [/quote]

But folk will use such tools though, just like riders take drugs or cheat to win as everyone likes a little ego massage every now and then, I don’t use strava and never will despite plenty of the local crowd round here pestering me to log times on the various 7 stanes etc. I know i’m faster than most, that’s good enough for me 😉

There may be irony in the above post

ajantom – Member

Unlike the twonk on a carbon 29er and full race kit who started skidding behind us (to make a point I assume) and started yelling ‘move, rider coming through,etc, etc.’ on the Haldon red run this arvo.
He seemed non-plussed when we saw him still going flat out a bit later (we’d taken a side route with some nice singletrack so had overtaken him) and gave him a whoop and a ‘you can do eeet! Strava KOM yeah.’

How do you know he was strava’ing? People being dicks predates such things…

ajantom – Member
Unlike the twonk on a carbon 29er and full race kit who started skidding behind us (to make a point I assume) and started yelling ‘move, rider coming through,etc, etc.’ on the Haldon red run this arvo.
He seemed non-plussed when we saw him still going flat out a bit later (we’d taken a side route with some nice singletrack so had overtaken him) and gave him a whoop and a ‘you can do eeet! Strava KOM yeah.’

Yep there are more dicks in the world than strava members, there were guys like this 10 years ago, racing their watch or anything. We get head down training riders out here early on who are just belting out laps as fast as they can – on 2 way tracks, nothing to do with strava just human nature to only think about yourself.

But folk will use such tools though

I don’t care what other people do.

The funny thing with the strava haters pontificating on this thread is that the vast majority of my off-road strava segments I’m well towards the bottom of the leaderboard – though strangely I do have one KOM riding the same contraption. I don’t think any of the car drivers were all that bothered by my recent KOM attempts.

Spookily enough I’ve just raised a support ticket with Strava on this topic.

Last year I did the BHF L2B night ride and got the KOM for the whole 60 mile ride.

Odd thing on that is that the created segment at one point is actually nearly two miles off the correct route (which I did) yet I was still included. ❓

On this year’s ride I had a tiny GPS blip but I haven’t even been included in either last year’s segment or the two that have been created for this year.

I’ve had recent rides where the GPS track has been all over the place and whilst that’s annoying, the error is too much to correct. However it’s the inconsistency on these BHF rides that I’d like sorting out.

(Strava / Garmin traces available upon request)

One of my rides somehow the garmin thought I’d teleported to Alaska and then back to QECP middle of the ride for a few seconds. Resulting in a ride of several thousand miles….. Managed to cut it out to save some of the ride….

On the longer segments thing, I took KOM on an 8 minute (for me) segment yesterday – the next best is over a minute down, so almost as good a % improvement as the short one I started this thread with, and I don’t think even the trolls can suggest that’s just down to inaccuracy of GPS.

I got an ‘uh oh you lost a segment’ message this morning. The person who beat me did it just under 2 minutes quicker than me. I’d done it in 7 minutes.
Which came as a bit of a surprise as I didn’t even know I had it in the first place. 😀

the twonk on a carbon 29er and full race kit who started skidding behind us (to make a point I assume) and started yelling ‘move, rider coming through,etc, etc.

Not a strava user or a “dick” perhaps?

Perhaps it’s just a guy riding much faster on the trail than others who feels it’s safe practice to shout a warning as he approaches. Happens all the time in my experience when its a busy (sunny) day on the trails. If I’m in the way I move. If it’s me, riders in front move. Summary: Everyone has a nice day out on their bicycle.

I think as much as it’s pathetic to be willy waving about % KOMs it’s pretty tragic to be complaining about faster riders than you.

m1kea, if the person who created the segment’s GPS is ropey (especially near the start or end) others riding the same trail sometimes won’t be included..

10pmix – Member

Perhaps it’s just a guy riding much faster on the trail than others who feels it’s safe practice to shout a warning as he approaches.

Does it really sound like that to you? Skidding, yelling “Rider coming through”? There’s ways of getting past a slower rider, this isn’t it.

Perhaps it’s just a guy riding much faster on the trail than others who feels it’s safe practice to shout a warning as he approaches. Happens all the time in my experience when its a busy (sunny) day on the trails. If I’m in the way I move. If it’s me, riders in front move. Summary: Everyone has a nice day out on their bicycle.

A warning doesn’t use words like move. rider coming through. Generally slow down and either stop and allow a proper gap or ask politely if I can come past if they don’t mind. Everyone has the same right to be there, don’t go messing up somebodies first fun day on a bike because it’s slowing you up!!

Persona

The start of the ‘defect’ on last year’s segement is about 40 miles in, and accurately follows roads for the whole route.

Re the fast guy:

Slowing down and shouting “rider up”, “on your left/right please” should be sufficient notice and consideration for all. If you encounter the bell end again then you could always tell him to have another attempt? 😉