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Stock remedy on a diet? Advice/ideas welcomed!

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DeeW - Member

I've had a couple of Remedys. Old one with the 'standard' shock did bottom very easily (though sorted with volume reducers in air can).

Never felt my DRCV shock bottom out and its had a fair bit of abuse. I weigh 150lbs and I'm running 135psi rear for 30% sag. I've been struck by how well it does pedal but I'm used to heavier bikes. You checked you're compressing the shock to equalize the chambers and are getting the right sag?

Other possibilities that either the shock is f***ed or as others have said you really need a shorter travel bike.

Posted 9 months ago #
davidtaylforth - Member

Sell it and get a shorter travel bike? No point in riding it if you dont like it.

Posted 9 months ago #
nmdbase - Member

Best bet is, if it's a 17.5, swap it for my 28.5lb Heckler

Posted 9 months ago #
continuity - Member

I love it on the technical stuff, it just glides over and rails berms. I just want it to be more sprightly and easier to throw around the trails, and a bit lighter for the inevitable uphills. I did consider that it was too large a frame size for my height (large - 19.5 virtual, 6ft), but I certainly don't feel stretched out in the slightest, and the guy who owned it before me was shorter than me. I will ask my lbs what they think of the shock, and maybe consider selling/trading to something smaller.

Posted 9 months ago #
JonEdwards - Member

Try setting it up to run 25-30% sag?

Manufacturers suspension settings are often WAY out. Set it to suit yourself.

Posted 9 months ago #
b r - Member

Weighed a friends 2011 Top Fuel 9.9 on Saturday at 24.5lbs, OCLV frame, SID World Cup forks, full XTR etc. Bikes are heavier than people expect!

Agree, my large 456Ti is 24lbs (on Park scales) c/w pedals and 140mm fork. Every component has been bought focusing on light/strong rather than cost.

Having ridden a carbon Remedy it was light, but also felt just like a pumped-up trail bike and tbh I found the front end too steep - probably 'cos I'm use to the slackness of the 456.

Posted 9 months ago #
stumpy01 - Member

Thinking about it, perhaps the shock is faulty if it feels that wallowy.

A mate of mine recently bought a Cube from CRC that he reckoned was really wallowy & 'squidgy'.
He spoke to Mojo about it & they asked him to send the shock into them. They said it was faulty, repaired it under warranty & sent it back.

He says it now feels like a different bike.

Posted 9 months ago #
njee20 - Member

Or if you bought it second hand maybe the original owner did something to it. Be worth investigating further I guess! Bottoming out on small hits doesn't sound right!

Posted 9 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

I striped my Pitch last night and weighed everything from the rotor bolts upwards.

At least I've now got a benchmark to compare upgrades against.

I now know for example that a Reverb only weighs as much as removing the chain device and bashring and swaping for a bolt up seat clamp for example.

Or that Ti brake bolts will save more weight/cost less than a new, lighter stem.

Or that there's a lot of un-neccecary heft in the bars, rotors saddle and seatpost.

But despite my assumptions there was no weight to be lost from the fork, and the wheelset isn't too far off the limit of what I'd ever considder spending would buy me so I may as well ride it untill it dies.

Posted 9 months ago #
continuity - Member

Some interesting thoughts spoon. Yes, I did buy it second hand. I go for a normal trail ride, and I come back and the o ring is as far as it can possibly go. No drop offs, just rolling singletrack. I'll talk to a suspension boff and my lbs about it. Then again, it feels a little wallowy at the front as well and they can't both be screwy.

Posted 9 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

The pitch never bottoms out, but I never turn pro pedal off either though.

Posted 9 months ago #
Rusty Mac - Member

continuity - Member

I go for a normal trail ride, and I come back and the o ring is as far as it can possibly go. No drop offs, just rolling singletrack.

From what you have written it sounds as though you have an issue with the shock or it hs not been set up correctly.

Have you followed the following guide from trek for setting it up?

http://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/2010/suspension/remedy.pdf

for your forks you should be able to get setup guides fromt he Fox website.

Posted 9 months ago #
bent_udder - Member

29.4lbs on the scales - which weirdly is more than most people's stock remedy's (maybe they're quoting without pedals?)

It feels kinda wallowy and sluggish (not very nimble and chuckable) on the trails, and heavy when I'm pumping it up a hill compared to friends bikes. Bottoming out a lot on small stuff and using loads of travel when I feel like I should be just bobbing along at the top.

Wonder if a 50mm stem would help it feel a bit more nimble through singletrack?

That sounds like a baggy shock. When I get the same feeling on my 5 (and I ride the Surrey Hills mostly), it means it's time to top up the rear shock with a bit more air. You may also want to consider your pedalling style (do you push squares, rather than spin circles?). If you are sitting down and pedalling slowly through rough stuff, you will also get a bit seasick, although from what you're saying, you don't seem to be doing that.

A couple of pound here and there should not really be terribly noticeable - it only makes a difference over an all-day ride for most people. HTH.

Posted 9 months ago #
captain_bastard - Member

i've set my remedy up both using the sag meter and for comparison according to Trek's web site

only a few psi in it either way, and both felt fine. The DRCV does take a little more effort to set up right, but once done it does feel absolutley great (I think it's one of the best things Trek have going for them at the moment)

if it feels anything but great, i'd take it to a trek dealer for a second opinion

Posted 9 months ago #
snakebite - Member

As the captain says, once set up the DRCV is great, never have to touch mine.

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