I really dont give a fig about football but things like this
This is a genuine high profile news story
Really piss me off. It is not a high profile news story its only in the news becuase he is an over paid idiot who kicks a ball about. There are plenty of high profile new stories that get glossed over becuase of what this/that footballs have been doing in the last wekk or so.
And there was me thinking that footballers were supposed to be role models. I'm sorry, but verdict or not, role models (unless they are bad ones) do not do things like that. Under any circumstances.
Just another reason why they say that football is a game for gentlemen played by thugs I think
Very surprised by the Gerrard verdict. But then I've only seen the CCTV footage and that's never going to tell the full story. It is a bit odd how all of his mates pleaded guilty though.
Gerrard is a local hero – Im sure if he'd been a local pariah they wouldn't have held the trial there as his defence would have argued he couldn't get a fair trial.
All his mates (who couldnt afford such experienced counsel) pleaded guilty. He said the complainant came towards him so he hit him in self defence. A pre-emptive strike is allowed in self defence, but the force has to be reasonable. How were the second and third punches reasonable?
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And there was me thinking that footballers were supposed to be role models
And here was me thinking they were people who are good at football.
Do you think Gerrard as child when asked why he wanted to play football said because I want to be a role model?
Why does everyone "famous" have to be a role model?
Surely he is someone who is just doing his job?
The nation can be proud that the Liverpool Police pursued a case against the heroic captain of the Liverpool football team, prosecuted by the Liverpool branch of the Crown Prosecution Service in a Liverpool court before a Liverpool judge with a Liverpool jury and a baying crowds of thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the courtroom every day.
Justice must not also be done, it must be seen to be done in the eyes of Liverpool football supporters
The nation can be proud that the Liverpool Police pursued a case against the heroic captain of the Liverpool football team, prosecuted by the Liverpool branch of the Crown Prosecution Service in a Liverpool court before a Liverpool judge with a Liverpool jury and a baying crowds of thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the courtroom every day.
yeah but there is another local team , some of em could have been tranmere fans
Only in Liverpool could this happen, ditto Ken Dodd and in Duncan Ferguson's case on the two occasions he had his house broken into he battered one of the robbers and each time around the charges of assault were dropped.
Liverpool likes to think its a law unto its self and the Steve Gerrard case gives credence to this.
He went to court his peers found him innocent it is not exactly OJ now is it?
The outcome is surprising but the judges summing up was
Gerrard admitted throwing three punches but said only one connected. He said he only swung at McGee because he thought he was about to be attacked himself.
"What at first sight to the casual observer may seem to have been a clear-cut case against you of unlawful violence, has been nowhere near as clear-cut upon careful analysis of the evidence," Globe[the judge] said.
The judge suggested it was unwise of Gerrard to approach McGee to resolve the earlier "trivial disagreement."
"You did not start the violence, it was started by the violent elbowing of Marcus McGee in the face by one of your friends, John Doran," Globe said. "The victim's consequential actions of reeling backwards and then forwards and your actions in response to that movement forward has to be seen against that background.
"At all times you insisted that you only ever acted in what you believed was reasonable self defence to what you understandably, albeit you accept mistakenly, believed was an attempted attack upon you by Marcus McGee."
Surprising result but his peers have spoken
i havent read the whole thred and it's probably been said already but he could have raped a bus full of nuns in frount of the judge and he's have still been found inicent in liverpool.
FFS LLansera you know that is a fake and a great misrepresentation of what actually happened you really do need to let go of your hatred it is seems to be affecting you somewhat
Feel sorry for the lad who was beaten up, where's his justice
I thought you couldn't let it go Arsenal but, and this is a big "but", given that the lad who was beaten up was a scouser too, it seems that you're entirely balanced and reasonable. I thought that it was Gerrard being a scouser that was winding your little winder up so much. It seems I was wrong, and you're not the ill-informed biased cock that everyone is making you out to be. I am in a very small minority concerning this view, but I feel you're turning the oil-tanker that is your opinion.
Posted 14 years ago
Lanesra
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Nothing to do with "scousers" Darcy, as this thread has correctly (imo) pointed out there are many flaws in our justice system and Gerrard has exploited it to the max
As for the guy who was assaulted he will probably end up in witness protection
So not only does he get assaulted by seven people, the person who instigated it (Gerrard) gets off scot free – then to compound getting battered he has to live the rest of his life in fear and probably away from his friends and family
Llansera I feel the need to point out what you were like with TJ threatening your lawyers, defamation of character (a near impossibility in your case I would have thought) and suing for you being insulted.
However when you are the person doing this (Gerrard was found innocent whether you or I agree with this, He did not hit a small child as you well know and then laugh off) you seem to be quite pleased with yourself. Again you paint a beautiful picture of your own character.
Posted 14 years ago
Lanesra
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Llansera I feel the need to point out what you were like with TJ threatening your lawyers, defamation of character (a near impossibility in your case I would have thought) and suing for you being insulted.
However when you are the person doing this (Gerrard was found innocent whether you or I agree with this, He did not hit a small child as you well know and then laugh off) you seem to be quite pleased with yourself. Again you paint a beautiful picture of your own character.
TBH, Junkyard preach to someone who cares. TJ knows I was joking
I did not think that you were joking. I thought you were being threatening and unpleasant. Mind you I was not worried either as I had / have the ammunition.
Posted 14 years ago
Lanesra
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You had no qualification for your accusations, if you did you wouldn't have profusely apologised, imo
If you're that sure go for it, or ask the mods to close the thread(again)