tyrionl1 – Member

So a building worker? Who, if he really were a proper building worker, would be totally distressed at the way pay rates have been depressed by the influx of my new neighbours and by now dressed in purple and yellow and working on Nigels campaign team.

Not only am I a “proper building worker”, carpenter to be precise, but I originally came to the UK as an immigrant. That’s a proper immigrant btw …. foreign born with foreign nationality and all that 8)

I have no idea what your skepticism concerning my trade is based on, what made you think I had a different professional background, and what did you think it was ? I’m intrigued 🙂

EDIT : Btw immigration and offering asylum are two separate and different issues.

Was only a matter of time

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/a-migrant-has-reportedly-died-trying-to-board-a-moving-train-from-calais-to-uk-10348297.html

Sadly desperate people dying in Calais because they have taken desperate risks is a regular occurrence.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/23/15-migrants-trying-enter-uk-die-shameful-calais-conditions%5D

Calais fubarred again.

http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2015/06/29/des-marins-de-myferrylink-bloquent-le-port-de-calais_4664062_3234.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-3208

Another week another opportunity to pour the worlds troubled masses into Kent, whilst disrupting everyone’s lives in this region.

Just a quick nod to Champagne Ernie_Lynch and his pals Tony & Gordon for creating this situation in the first place, not to mention the rest of the human rights legal industry that is still enjoying the fruits of their corruption.

just5minutes – Member

The BBC analysis shows that people don’t make a net contribution as tax payers until their earnings reach a similar level cited by MigrationWatch

All of which assumes that people only contribute as taxpayers, and overlooks the value they add as workers, which at the lower end of the pay scale is massively more.

Thanks Mr Binners but we don’t need you and your beer drinking dads help, the evil bitch Cersei Blair caused all this, whispering profitable ‘uman right lawyering ideas to her moronic husband..

All of which assumes that people only contribute as taxpayers, and overlooks the value they add as workers, which at the lower end of the pay scale is massively more.

And this assumes that there isn’t someone already here with the capacity and capability to do it. We don’t need to import cheap unskilled labour when there’s plenty of it here – what we do need to do is sort out the ridiculous merry go round of low wages, tax credits, enormous administrative costs and a portion of the able-bodied society who have no intention of working.

Is this a good time to call Tony Blair a ****?

However badly you champagne socialist charlies might feel toward Thatcher (who I also hated) and what she did to our manufacturing and regulation, what the Blairs have done to us is much much worse and has a far reaching legacy that can never be unravelled.

ernie_lynch – Member
tyrionl1 – Member
So a building worker? Who, if he really were a proper building worker, would be totally distressed at the way pay rates have been depressed by the influx of my new neighbours and by now dressed in purple and yellow and working on Nigels campaign team.

Not only am I a “proper building worker”, carpenter to be precise, but I originally came to the UK as an immigrant. That’s a proper immigrant btw …. foreign born with foreign nationality and all that

I have no idea what your skepticism concerning my trade is based on, what made you think I had a different professional background, and what did you think it was ? I’m intrigued

EDIT : Btw immigration and offering asylum are two separate and different issues.

I am sorry I missed this before my earlier ironic aside referring to your political choice of sparkling beverage and just to clarify I am perfectly aware of the differences between immigration, legal, illegal economic and purely transient, indeed my family enjoys the free legal movement within the EU as do I.

What I don’t however enjoy is the casual way in which those who you politically support engaged in the American style influx of taking on the entire worlds poor and oppressed without first putting in place a social infrastructure with which to deal with them.

We are quite literally on the front line here, from Kosovans to Eritreans, Afghans to Somalians, Christians Sunni & Shia all battling it out within our streets at night. To contrast with that we also have the Ghurkas in town and you couldn’t get a more pleasant community, the others on the other hand tend to be not only the worlds troubled, they are also the stronger fitter, more devious survivors that are bright enough to work the system and oppress those around them.
Bleeding heart liberals are just not equipped to deal with this, they are twisted around the outstretched and grasping palms that take and take again, from Romanian and Bulgarian blaggers of the late nineties to the Tier 2 & 3 national traffickers too numerous to mention in a post such as this.

As to the plight of chippys & brickies in this area, it is I am pleased to say at long last on the up, we have a thousand new homes being built on ex military land so there is more work for many of my friends and colleagues in the building industry a surprising number of whom however would also disagree with your politics, but then they are not Cersei Blairs guests, many had the unlucky chance to be born here and were not educated perhaps as well as you and your fellow migrants.

Tbh I had no idea what your trade was, but you do show a level of education above that of a local construction worker so my guess would have been local government paper clip shifter and keyboard operator, but you do appear to be able to spend a not inconsiderable amount of time at this place for a legitimate woodsmith.

Could you make me one of those little wooden watch stands for my iwatch? 😉

We are quite literally on the front line here,

Where is here?

Sounds like a different country to the one I live in.

footflaps – Member
We are quite literally on the front line here,
Where is here?

Sounds like a different country to the one I live in.

It used to be called Folkestone, it’s now referred to as Eurotunnel on all the signage from that Lunnon and yes it is very different from the place it used to be. Once upon a time this was called Hell Fire corner when ‘they’ were lobbing shells across, I think a lot of us would prefer that over the situation we currently face and that is almost not an ironic statement.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLY5h8FbM6k[/video]

I spend a few days largely off the site and things get interesting, perhaps there is a lesson there 😉

I was no fan of Thatcher but at least our ports aren’t blockaded by workers striking over Eurotunnel’s decision to get out of the Ferry business

It was Thatcher that dug that infernal hole in the ground in the first place which, not only decimated some very good riding, but bypassed our Town forced the closure of our Channel Port, which was already reeling from the loss of its fishing fleet thanks to the French Eu. Our MP at the time was that toad, the utter utter utter bastard and prince of darkness Michael Howard, and we had to rely on the delightful protestation services of another bent MP from Thanet who’s name temporarily eludes me but like most Tory mps should end up, in jail or suffocated with a plastic bag stuck in his mouth naked on a chair in a room full of bondage equipment. I think it might have been jail.

Nothing nothing nothing good ever comes from a Tory administration.

In fact since the fifties in terms of personal freedoms, I can’t think of anything that much good that’s come from any administration of this pathetic country.

Given I was once free to drink, ride a motorcycle without a helmet at 100 mph, smoke wherever I liked, call a spade a shovel if necessary without being arrested, withdraw my labour at a moments notice, carry a large knife or a felling axe, own a gun and what’s more people were polite to me and raised their hat would we meet.

Small nomenclature query – why are these people referred to as “migrants” ? Surely they are attempting migrants, until they actually get to the UK. Or failed migrants. Or migruands, for the those of you who went to posh schools.

tyrionl1 – have you thought about going being an immigrant somewhere else? You don’t seem to like it here much

you do show a level of education above that of a local construction worker

What do you know of my “level of education” ? If you’re asking it’s to CSE level, which I would describe as very much average/normal for “a local construction worker”.

Yes Mr Binners sir I have, but that operation yewtree embarrassment pretty much put paid to that.. 😉

ernie_lynch – Member
you do show a level of education above that of a local construction worker
What do you know of my “level of education” ? If you’re asking it’s to CSE level, which I would describe as very much average/normal for “a local construction worker”.

You can read and write, elucidate a good opinion in debate… Not many building industry workers out here in the boondocks have quite that level.. You could almost have been a teacher, but I thought you obviously were too well educated for that. 😉

I hadn’t realised a special occasion was required

I’m absolutely with you on the tipping hats and carrying axes thing

tyrion – most building workers can read and write. I won’t deny that what differentiates me from most building workers is that I read the Guardian and the Morning Star. That undoubtedly gives me an advantage over most other building workers in terms of how well-informed I am.

Well here’s the latest, the sources are visual, a coastguard volunteer and a coastguard full time operator. Yesterday over 100 illegals (I’m not going to use the term immigrant which denigrates perfectly decent folk)just walked the 20 miles through the tunnel assisted by the French Eurotunnel workers who they have been helping with the burning tyres for the blockade.

You won’t be reading about any of this in the Daily Fail, there’s a strict embargo on news of this sort of activity as you can imagine in the current climate. Meanwhile yesterdays estimate is 6000 trucks on the M20 with the local coastguard being drawn in along with the British Red Cross as well as the rest of the emergency services to dispense food and water to the stranded truckers.

On the other side of the trench no such assistance, although the French built Lorry Parks years ago to cover this sort of occurrence but truckers being truckers either don’t use them or are just unaware of their existence. So they park up, their vehicles are assaulted and there are further hold ups if they do get some shuttles working as the vehicles have to be scanned for CO2 and Body heat (not easy in the weather) as fish & meat cargoes rot if the refrigerated vehicles run out of gas.

Whose fault is all this, ours of course as Eurotunnel is forced to adopt the “anglo saxon’ business model maximised for profit over the gallic socialist supporter of french infrastructure model. That and our generous benefits image broadcast across the world.

Locally a journey that normally takes me 10 minutes home from the sailing lake on Wednesday took nearly an hour and that’s using back roads once I cleared a bottle neck at Hythe. The only way to travel round here right now is by blue light flashing and there are plenty of those.

tyrionl1 – Member

You won’t be reading about any of this in the Daily Fail, there’s a strict embargo on news of this sort of activity as you can imagine in the current climate.

Posted 8 hours ago

ernie_lynch – Member

Of course you don’t read the Daily Mail, I imagine it must be too liberal, left-wing, and lacking in prejudice, for you 🙂

Posted 1 week ago

tyrion – most building workers can read and write. I won’t deny that what differentiates me from most building workers is that I read the Guardian and the Morning Star. That undoubtedly gives me an advantage over most other building workers in terms of how well-informed I am.

😆

That’s me cheekyboy …… well posh 🙂