If you are in conditions that require grip on the driving wheels surely you need grip on the steering wheels or you’ll just plow into the first thing ahead of you?
I bought snowsocks for the front and rear of my Merc. I’ve used them a few times and was very pleasantly surprised about how effective they were – however after the first couple of times I just fitted the rear ones and that was fine. I’d fit both sets if the conditions were bad though.
I only have rear (although pretty sure the set I have for wife’s car will fit front). I popped the rears on an hr ago to pick junior and his mate up from footie training, which is a few hundred metres in fresh snow and a couple of miles on main roads, also snow covered. Was driving gingerly but seriously impressed. Steering was fine, probs due to big heavy lump of bmw diesel over the front wheels and traction amazing. Stopped on hill outside house which is quite steep and pulled away in first gear with no slipping at all.
I just carry a shovel. You only need to clear 2 metres and yer away. If everyone did, all access roads to main cleared routes would be done in ten minutes.
When it snowed just after Christmas I took my 320d out for a play in the snow. Like any car on normal tyres it was fine once you got going, and could go up and down hills around corners, all with the added fun of rwd switching the traction off. The only time it struggled was on getting going, and steep hills without much momentum.
Snowsocks enabled it to get up some pretty steep hills to the point I was more than happy for my £50 spent. I now know at least I can get home with no issues.
Ive only got them on the rears and there was no problem with steering. IMO you shouldnt be going that fast that it becomes a problem. Taken them off is very easy, just pull one of the cords, role the car forward and thats it
The first time takes a bit longer to get used to taking them on and off, but now it is really easy. Careful though BMW’s dont have much arch clearance. Ive got them in the boot in a bin liner as obviously they come off wet and the supplied bag isnt big enough.
Make sure you have something to kneel on, gloves and a top you dont mind getting a bit dirty.
As I have said on other threads, I can see why winter tyres can be good, but in Yorkshire there just are not enough days when the temperature is below 7 deg to make it worth while. Proportionally I am convinced people who have winter tyres will spend more time driving around at > 7 deg than below.
Proportionally I am convinced people who have winter tyres will spend more time driving around at > 7 deg than below.
Probably. But the thing is,it’s when things are cold and wet that extra grip’s most useful. So it can still be a good tradeoff to have a little less grip in good conditions, even if that’s most of the time, in order to get a bit more grip in bad conditions. I
Been out in what is now a proper blizzard for a play 😀 even on the steepest bit of nearby road, which is about 1 in 5, hill starts are routine with no slippage. Don’t think I’ll bother with front ones as steering is fine sub 20mph, which is fast enough given braking conditions…
They are only supposed to be used at low speed, you can’t just chuck the car around with impunity, and once you get onto clear tarmac you should take them straight off.
But this is the problem, as you could need them back on in a couple of miles and off, then on etc.
The pair I borrowed weren’t particularly easy to get on – especially when not dressed for it 🙂
Live in Scotland now, so run winter tyres – in fact just driven 120 miles back home on wintery roads, which without them would’ve be a whole lot slower and certainly not as ‘comfortable’.
Cheers for the replies, might have a look into what a full set of winter tyres would cost.
Cheaper than you realise; as 5 months of use means that my summer (ie far more expensive set) last 5 months longer.
The pair I borrowed weren’t particularly easy to get on
. I guess it depends on arch clearance, mine are on 225/55/17’s on a 5 series but I used the supplied gloves over a jacket and they took less than a minute per side, drove forward 3 ft and then another minute max per side to pop the remainder on and pull straight.
Gary – did you have them on all 4 tyres ? I went up the A77 that day at about 3pm in a slithering mess, probs a few hrs before you, and then got properly stuck in EK (3 series tourer at that stage)
Front wheel drive car Iain so just the front
M77 was carnage tonight heading north. There were cars all over the road just at the section at eaglesham road end. Heading South was slow but okay. Unfortunately I had to take the car today so had to sit in traffic, I’d much rather have been riding on the a77.
I just carry a shovel. You only need to clear 2 metres and yer away.
What time were you on the M77 Gary? I got back (from Kilmarnock) at about 9 and it was not pleasant at all. Noticed a long line of cars slowly following a plough on the other carriageway, but didn’t see anything on my side.
Was (not very) surprised to see two minis tanking past me at about 70 in the overtaking lane! Can’t get my head round whether people are really stupid or just don’t care
We were on it about 6:30 to 7pm. The only bad bit northbound was at the section above eaglesham road end, the rest was fine. There were a couple of lorries and cars spinning out and it was causing mayhem.
Was (not very) surprised to see two minis tanking past me at about 70 in the overtaking lane! Can’t get my head round whether people are really stupid or just don’t care
Noob. They’ve got ESP so that takes care of everything – obvs!
Limped the car into the garage in the snow today to get a spring replaced. Slight lack of ground clearance on nearside leading to impromptu snowplowing, every ripple in the packed snow felt like the end of the world. Got to the garage, one of the mechanics had just parked his car in the wall in the icy driveway 😆 Towed him out, discount on labour due I think! Yay snowproxes. Boo springs.
Noob. They’ve got ESP so that takes care of everything – obvs!
Combined with flashing hazard lights what can possibly go wrong.
I have an auto Merc estate with low profile tyres etc and just drove through the centre of Liverpool in quite dodgy conditions given a sudden snow fall. The number of people who simply cant drive is staggering, getting very close, cornering too quickly, losing momentum before a slight hill etc.
I learned to drive in a 1.1 ltr Mk 1 Escort van and spent my yoof driving underpowered fords/Vauxhalls etc and when you have driven a car with drums all round and with about 20BHP you have to become a bit more “involved” 😯
^^^^ indeed, these fine pieces of German engineering, when shod with regular tyres, can lose the ability to pull away in a mere dusting of snow. They are fine as long as momentum is kept up, which pretty much impossible for much of where I drive.
Anyway, after the blizzard later it was a good 3 inches deep and much more fun 🙂
Snow socks got me out of bother this morning after optimisically trying to get up an untreated 10% hill to the train station in a few inches of snow. As a long term winter tyre user, they are surprisingly good but prefer the fit and forget tyre option.