We weren’t going to worry about posting too many details about geo as we’re more of a firm believer of “if a bike rides well, does the pub-talk really matter?”
But here’s the basics!
Head Angle: SLACK AF (or 62.5 degrees in real language)
Wheelbase: LONG AF (or 1257mm)
Seat-tube angle: STICKY UPPY SO YOU CAN CLIMB (ehem, 74.5 degrees)
Reach: NOICE (511mm)
Note, these are for the BIG frame (that’s actually our regular), we’re finalising a larger frame for the high-towers of the world that’s a little longer, has a slightly higher seat tower and longer reach.
My first comment was going to be seatpost related, looks great in the photos but is said that enduro etc can be done which requires a decent saddle height, never seen an enduro race where a rider stood up for every ascent and descent
Apart from the odd looks and ironic name it makes a fair bit of sense. I can see this sort of thing from a bigger manufacturer in 2-3 seasons. It’s like a BTR, but more ‘yah dude!’
I’m still not in though, too much money for me. And too ‘rad’
Looks like a DJ frame.
The ST/TT junction is far too low aesthetically. I also wonder if the ST is too short to run a dropper fully extended without exceeding the minimum insertion..
it does look like it’s straining to push out a stubborn poo. But seatposts can be pretty long, the 480mm Reverb’s too big for a lot of frames but it’d be quite at home in that. Or a 560mm, 200mm Fall Line. it’s not like it’ll look any dafter.
I’m tempted, but it’s twice the price of a Last FF, and there’s something really annoying about the way the TT and chainstay meet at an angle instead of a straight line.
I just want the top tube and seat stays to run in a straight line, I think that would look badass. I’m surprised how high the BB looks too.
Regarding the geometry, I went down the slack and long route with my own hardtail, starting with a -2 deg headset and 130mm fork, then a -0.5 deg external lower cup and 140mm fork and now a standard zero stack headset and 150mm fork, so the bike has become progressively shorter in reach and steeper of head angle (particularly at sag). It’s still fairly long (about 450mm reach) but not that slack, maybe 66.5 or 67 sagged. For the terrain it’s best on it just seems to work better with less rad geometry.
My full-sus has gone the other way, now sitting at a sub 64 deg head angle and riding great. The reach is shorter but the stem is longer too (50 vs 35mm) and it has massive bars (810 vs 750mm).
I’m currently a bit perplexed at why the full-sus rides better slacked out and the hardtail better steeper. However Sick Bicycles are only a few miles away and a mate’s already given the prototype a go so I may get to see how it feels quite soon!
They’re only a couple of streets away from my house which was a surprise. It’s an interesting bike that’s for sure. They’re WAY too cool for the likes of me but I can’t fault the ambition and enthusiasm. 8)
Jimbo (Hummerlicious from this parish) took one for a spin, he was pretty impressed.
I just keep looking at that and thinkign how little it’d take to un**** the toptube/chainstay line, it’d make bugger all difference to standover and wouldn’t even need a longer seat tube.
Yup. I’m a serial buyer of ugly bikes but even I have limits. It’s actually uglier than my Ellsworth, in some ways, just because it works so hard at spoling something that is just naturally nice to look at.