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  • Stoner
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    ransos – all you are doing there is marking where on the line of social function you think a society should lie. The line could go all the way up to collectivism. Would you follow the line all the way along? There’s many in the US who would happily see the “right” position being all the way across to feral anarchism.

    Thats differing opinions, not correct answers.

    grum
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    ransos – all you are doing there is marking where on the line of social function you think a society should lie.

    Based on fairly universal criteria of what constitutes a successful society though.

    ransos
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    ransos – all you are doing there is marking where on the line of social function you think a society should lie.

    That’s a wilful misreading of my post. I gave you some outcomes that many people would wish to see. Having agreed on some outcomes, we can then work back and look at the most successful methodologies for achieving them.

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    Stoner
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    JY – without the change is more important. The key thing is behaviour, not welfare.

    Welfare is outcome, behaviour is freedom of action.

    As I said earlier, the corollory of increases in social democracy is reduction in indivdualism (selfishness, if you like). we differ on where that trade-off is acceptably balanced perhaps.

    If we go along with your change though, then again you’re just marking the point on the line where you think collective responsibility reaches. Im comfortable at the point on the line being familial and friends, with the occasional extension into charity to strangers and a bit of national tax distribution. But if you’re happy for it to go deeper nationally, why not internationally/globally? i.e. complete redistribution accross the globe?

    grum
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    But if you’re happy for it to go deeper nationally, why not internationally/globally? i.e. complete redistribution accross the globe?

    Ok then.

    user-removed
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    crispo – think I’ve worked every Kings race so far. They’re a bit sanitised now they don’t let everyone get minging drunk on the premises before racing…

    Stoner
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    Ok then.

    fine. that’s your politics.

    mine arent.

    i think we’ve gone round and round long enough we’re probably back where we started now 🙂

    ernie_lynch
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    i think we’ve gone round and round long enough we’re probably back where we started now

    Was it fun ? I completely missed the bit in the middle – I was left somewhere near the beginning.

    Stoner
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    Oh it was a gay dance.

    And I was worried today was going to be very boring 🙂

    Anyway, I can get back to boring everyone about my solar panels tomorrow.

    TandemJeremy
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    ernie_lynch
    I completely missed the bit in the middle – I was left

    😕

    ernie_lynch
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    TandemJeremy – Member

    😕

    Well to be perfectly frank, I’m rather happy that I was left behind.

    According to Stoner it was a bit like this :

    Stoner
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    I was going for:

    but dont let that stop your mind taking you where it wants to GG….

    mefty
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    I think you will find your perception of Sweden is out-of-date. They have steadily been reducing taxes there in recent years.

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