how so heavy?

6.5lb fork and an old rear wheel at the mo. Could easily chip a couple of pounds off I guess but the 66s are keepers.

A Patriot LT (R.I.P.) was stripped for half the Ragley parts so weight was never a major consideration. As it stands, its 7lbs lighter than the Orange.

my current build:

Fox 36 Talas R
Hope Step down headset
Azonic Stubb stem
Easton Monkey Lite SL bars
lizard skin grips
Avid Ti speed dial levers to BB7 brakes 160mm
X.9 SS rear, xtr Cassette (11-34) and x.9 shifter
Truvativ Carbon Noir 1:1 crankset & BB
Truvativ Boxguide chain guide
Crank brothers smarty pedals
Bontragar King Earl rims
WTB Prowler SS front, XT rear
Salsa post clamp
Thomson Post
old beat saddle.

It would be great with a rear maxle

is that a corvette?

It would be great with a rear maxle

hmm

Cheers, just chucked up a slightly closer pic of them.

Perhaps someone will try the other way round.

Did it last week. A bike with two personalities, hence two different looks from each side. I must admit, I prefer the white over black.

Pics in this thread….

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-cheap-ragley-mmmbops-at-crc#post-1674767

PS. Does anybody have clearance issues with adjusters on Pikes under the downtube if using a very low stack headset? Just need to be sure before I order one.

DaddyFool, YGM about a rear wheel.

So how are you all liking the mmmBops? Just been looking at them on CRC at that very tempting price! Would be using it for a mixture of dirt jumping, xc/trail centre and downhill. Pretty sure it'll be fine for the latter two but how about DJ? Will it take the abuse of an unsmooth 17-stoner?

Also what extra stuff do you need for a standard 1-1/8" Pike to fit the head tube?

Here's mine, just built up…

18" Ragley MmmBop Frame
Rockshox Recon 140mm maxle forks (Will be swapped for floats or revs)
Halo Freedom rims & Spin Doctor hubs
SLX Chainset (Double & Bash)
SLX Mecha
SLX Shifters
Truvativ Stylo Bars & Stem
Thomson Layback post
Charge Spoon saddle

good fun to ride

They are one of the few hardtails that I find genuinely ugly- those dropouts, that headtube- bleurgh!

Damn you Liam! I was going to do that with the decals but I thought it might look horrible so I just did them normally. looks bloody great!

I saw one of the green ones at the weekend. The colour doesn't look great in photos but is a lot nicer in the flesh.

Surprised how flexible the seat stays are. Only noticed when I was out tonight and suffered a puncture. Dropping the wheel back in the drop-outs and they the whole seatstay/chainstay fabrication moves in and out so easily without the wheel to brace it. I honestly thought I'd broke something 🙁

Weighed mine tonight with one of those hanger type scales. Comes in at a tadge under 28lb's.

Had a blast, after riding it to my wedding, on the honeymoon at Mabie!

Blue 18" Frame
RS Revelation 2009 Maxle Dual Air
Truvativ Holzfeller Double and Bash
DMR V8 Pedals
Ragley Spike Seatpost
Ragley Cheeky Saddle
Ragley Seatclamp
PRO Vanderham Grips
PRO Riser Bars
PRO 50mm Stem
FSA Big Fat Pig Reducer Headset (Will change it weighs a tonne!)
Mavic 717 On front with Hope Pro II Bolt through (Maxxis Advantage 2.25)
Mavic Crossride on Back (Maxxis Crossmark 2.25)
Avid Elixir 5 Front 180 mm Rear 160mm
XT Rear Shadot Medium Cage
SLX Front Double Mech

In a niceway when you start approaching 30lb for an hardtail thats going to be used for rides in the Peaks etc I think your better off going with a full suss.

If your using it for jumping, short rides and also own a full suss for other duties then fine.

Part of the appeal of hardtails (for me) is a weight advantage over a full suss.

Part of the appeal of hardtails (for me) is a weight advantage over a full suss.

It's not about the weight for me – my heaviest hardtail (BFe) is 7lbs heavier than my lightest full-suss (Epic). In fact my lightest hardtail (Zion) is no lighter than my Epic at the moment.

What do you use the BFe for and would you take it on a long ride over the Epic?

The BFe is a temporary build at the moment but I mainly got it for playing about at trail centres – although so far I've just been riding it for general stuff in the Pentlands where it is of course massive overkill.

For a long day ride the Epic would still be my go-to bike, although I also find I use my Soul on longer runs.

Point is why would you want to ride with a dead lump of weighty metal between your legs hauling it up everywhere? When you can feel nimble, quick, responsive etc with a lighter hardtail that doesn't feel dead and thuddy downhill?

Hardtails rock but I'd rather have a well built Whyte Ti with air forks and high quality wheels than cheap and heavily built hardtail. How often do you folk 'go big' and snap bikes on downhills? 😆

Yes ££ but at the end of the day this is your hobby/weekend time.

Ace condition 20 ins blue mmmbop frame in the classifieds for anyone lanky who fancies one. Nolonger available from CRC in large. (sorry for the shameless plug)

Yes ££ but at the end of the day this is your hobby/weekend time.

"your" being the important bit 😉

Hardtails rock but I'd rather have a well built Whyte Ti with air forks and high quality wheels than cheap and heavily built hardtail

Can I have your wallet please? 😥

RS coil Pikes, LX crankset, Static HiTop bars, On-One 456 stem,
Fizik Nisene saddle, Mavic XM 321 rims, Specialized Pro 2,35 tyres,
XT/Lx gearing, Hayes 9s.

In regular XC mode…

Ragley mmmbop
and its darkside – saddle down, forks lowered…

Ragley mmmbop

how many spacers are people running under stems?

apply decals, trim steerer, sort out new tyres, fettle gears, tidy kitchen!!!

Liking mine so far, it does lack a seatpost and saddle which is limiting its usefulness somewhat but it did make my day by havng all the indexing just work miraculously as soon as I fitted the mechs and twiddled the end screws by eye, so clearly it's Meant To Be. Might get it out for a ride tomorrow. No photos as frankly it looks like crap, all overlong cables and hoses and electric tape all over it as I couldn't find my helicopter tape.

Bring it on wed NW.

I'll be down south this week but I should be out to play next week.

Serves allright as comuting bike.

Oh, and surprisingly it turns out that a 16 inch Mmmbop with a 130mm fork has the exact same wheelbase as a 17.5 inch Hemlock with a 160mm fork. That's pretty long… Glad I didn't get the 18.

IMAG0008 by druidh_dubh, on Flickr

Just (almost) built

Pedals – the only flats I had kicking around the garage 🙂
Cables & hoses? Meh – I might just leave them like that.
Advantage 2.1 – currently running with tubes as I don't have a tubeless kit at home.
Saddle – unsure about this or a Gusset…

16" frame
Talas RLC
XT chainset, mech & shifters
Elixir CR brakes
Syncros rims on Pro2 hubs
Easton 685mm Monkeylite bar / Hope 70mm DH stem
Ragley logo lock-on grips
Joplin with remote

Comes in at 27.5lbs (on my scales – the shop ones would have it sub-27)

Do you not find your shifters get in the way?

aimed at who and in the way of what?

Just been out getting it dirty
IMAG0010 by druidh_dubh, on Flickr

Looks good Colin.

Druidh – how have you routed the brake hose seat or chain stay? if chainstay – inside or out?

Chainstay – had to allow for the Join remote cable. Routing is currently a mix of in and out. I would have gone 'out' all the way but I'm not happy with the proximity of the crank.

Here ya go
IMAG0011 by druidh_dubh, on Flickr

Image posting newb, can get a link but can't get the pic to paste!!

http://m.flickr.com/photos/32476550@N05/4939354130/

mmmBop 18"
Fox Talas 140
DT 420's on DT hubs
Avid Elixir CR SL with 203 rotors
XTR crank and F Mech
X0 R Mech
X9 Shifters
Thomson Elite post and 70mm Stem

Built with parts to throw onto a Ragley Ti when I've saved more pennies!! Maiden voyage Friday gone, blimey is this thing direct, loved it….