Relative to last time they had a poor night. In absolute terms they had a superb night, the only party to win a majority of the seats they contested. Back to the drawing board for indyref2 probably – but I still think the threat of that was simply a negotiating tactic, NS knew all too well it still had insufficient support.

You could easily say that the scale of the Tory win is down to the SNP pushing indyrep2 and people voting the Tories in in previously Labour seats in opposition.

On the back of that result, Nicola Sturgeon should wind her neck in.

May should definitely go, owing to the fact that she has shown her true form: weak, misguided, erratic, vapid and unable to engage in debate. Best outcome would be to revoke Article 50 and just get things back to normal.

I can’t see how she can stay but seems she’s going to try. She’s put herself in an incredibly weak position, the only positive from her perspective is the rest of the potential Tory leaders are likely to be even more unpopular.

we could only revoke article 50 if all the other EU member states agreed.

You could easily say that the scale of the Tory win is down to the SNP pushing indyrep2 and people voting the Tories in in previously Labour seats in opposition.

Well a little maybe, but the numbers don’t really bear that out.

The Tories were always going to win the 3 seats in the Scottish borders.

Of the other 10 Seat they gained Labour could realistically only picked up one of them (East Ren)

So assuming that Tories would be on 309, Lab on 262 and SNP on 44

It would make forming a government more difficult for the Tories but wouldn’t really help Labour

SNP vote share in Scotland is alot less than Tories (or Labour) in UK, only 36.9%

stolen from the bbc comments 🙂

The country have decided that no Prime Minister is better than a bad Prime Minister

we could only revoke article 50 if all the other EU member states agreed.

I’m 99% sure that’s not true at all.

So assuming that Tories would be on 309, Lab on 262 and SNP on 44

It would make forming a government more difficult for the Tories but wouldn’t really help LabourThat result makes it impossible except for a minority one and all the other parties [ bar DUP who are not enough] oppose what they stand for so it would most likely have been a coalition of chaos or another election

Independence is off the radar tho

it is never off the radar for the Independence party and there was no way they could ever replicate what they did last time and by any other measure last night was a success. They won the most votes and the most seats and they have just won Scotland again

Trying to paint that as a disaster or loss for them is really a sign of what you hope for not what they hope for

BBC News – ‘It is the right thing that she [TM] tries to do her constitutional duty’
What’s this? Some sort of formal dump at Buckingham Palace?

I assume the correct constitutional approach is to go to the palace to be told by the monarch to do one. Well, it would be nice.

mefty – Member

SNP vote share in Scotland is alot less than Tories (or Labour) in UK, only 36.9%

thats ‘cos its a 4 party system here not 2 and a bit

Just to point out again. the SNP have a clear majority of the westminster seats, control of holyrood and took gains in the local elections. Hardly a total bust

Hope she stays, she will be great cannon fodder for the next General Election when it comes.

Strong and stable leadership.

Let the tories get on with all the behind the scenes plotting to get rid of her, it will happen.

Weaker brexit now because of the strong and stable leadership that the country wanted.

If she stays , then the tory squabbling will be entertaining, I don’t care who leads them really. Just want a change of government.

Looks like there will be another general election relatively soon, softer brexit that alot of people don’t want ( I’m a remoaner).

Should Theresa May resign?

Of course not silly goose. 😆

She should stay as long as she can.

Why should she worry about the opposition since she is in the govt.

Thick skin is the sign of politician so she doing well.

I shall support her again and again. 😆

Oh ya … I am going to myself a bottle of brandy cognac. 😛

Don’t forget your revolver!

Just to point out again. the SNP have a clear majority of the westminster seats, control of holyrood and took gains in the local elections. Hardly a total bust

But you are judged on relative performance, hence May’s problems, Sturgeon has lost majority in Holyrood, 40% of her Westminster seats and 13% of her vote share.

To compare the SNP result with May is silly Mays problem is she just swapped a majority for a minority [ and from a point of perceived unassailable lead ] did the SNP?

The SNP could not hold the historically high [ and unprecedented] result they achieved last time and they still have support the likes of which the other parties can dream about and an actual real majority of Mps in their country.

To compare their result to May holding a voluntary election to get a stronger mandate and losing what she had is daft.

I shall support her again and again

unless you move to maidenhead or she appears on strictly theres not much chance of you getting to vote for her again
😛

Sturgeon has lost majority in Holyrood

The Holyrood system was designed to ensure the SNP should never have been able to achieve a majority, so that’s not really a surprise.

Theresa May: the Butcher of Border Force, who in one of her previous ministerial jobs ‘arranged’ for over 30% of the staff to leave the organisation.
Now that the agency has limited resources and even more limited experienced staff, she wonders why the UK has an immigration problem and struggles to keep track of migrants, dangerous goods, people traffickers…. Utterly incompetent in everything she has done and dangerous to boot.
Off on a tangent but still very relevant to a totally ****ed up country:
Anyone been watching ‘Broken’..?

To compare the SNP result with May is silly Mays problem is she just swapped a majority for a minority [ and from a point of perceived unassailable lead ] did the SNP?

I wasn’t – but there has been a major shift in Scotland against the SNP, Unionist parties got over 60% of the vote – that is a lot worse than the Independence referendum, which they lost. Whichever way you cut it, that is a bad result for the SNP.

Theresa May’s media patrons are extremely upset with her, judging by reports of Murdoch storming out of a party upon learning of the exit polls and the scathing assessment from the Daily Heil.

May will be having some uncomfortable meetings with the 1922 committee very soon, I’ve no doubt.

PM May got guts.

Now she can stand firm and fight her corner.

Anyone now want to talk about her inherited power? No? Yes?

😛

Too many threads to keep up with

Sturgeon and the SNP had nowhere to go other than down. As such her result isn’t so much of a surprise, just a bit worse than expected. No need to quit over that.

As I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

PM I imagine media bods aren’t happy as the manifesto’s commitment to repeal section 40 and no Levenson 2 are now worthless. I am delighted about that.

If the Tories really wanted to piss Labour off then the best thing they could do is leave May as PM and carry on as if nothing had happened for as long as possible.

Brexit Negotiations are now really dofficult. It was always tricky us trying to deal worh 27 voices and now the EU is staring at a similar issue. No doubt the EU wants a delay as more status quo equals more £££ for them. It is not at all clear it would go that way. A stabd off is if anything more likely

As I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

I sincerely hope that your track record for accuracy is consistent here.

@epic thats fhe most likely outcome in the medium term

I said before if May goes it will be Boris or David Davies in all likelihood so be careful what yoy wish for

you keep warning us* without actually saying what you think

Glad you finally spoke about about levesson** shame you did not criticise it pre election.

* though you have reduced the list somewhat
** being in hacked off is possibly the only political thing we have in common

A stabd off is if anything more likely

That I’d pay good money to watch.

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you’ll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

yes having an inept leader in charge ho the public dont like who has no charisma or charm is indeed the best way to get at labour and far more effective than having a decent leader in charge – Where is stoner at least he was RW with a brain.

You are trying so hard to annoy lefties with your childish barbs/insights that you are prepared too shoot yoursel fin the foot over and over again thinking it annoys us

Carry on keep her I absolutely adore her remaining she is **** brilliant

STOP AND THINK

If you trawl back you’ll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

we did yesterday – was it boarding bob ?and you predicted a win of 100-150 seats [ whihc you denied making btw] So the jamby rewriting his own narrative begins again with entry number one in his book book of facts he thinks he said

If that is what it takes for you to think you always call it correctly then well done Trump would be proud of you

yes having an inept leader in charge ho the public dont like who has no charisma or charm is indeed the best way to get at labour and far more effective than having a decent leader in charge

I’m not suggesting it’s the right thing to do – just that politics appears to have descended to that level so it could well happen. It’s not as if there are any standout Tory replacements either.

You are trying so hard to annoy lefties with your childish barbs/insights that you are prepared too shoot yoursel fin the foot over and over again thinking it annoys us

I think you’re confusing me with someone else BTW – I voted for a socialist party.

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you’ll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

Seeing that you require your very own #jambafact I don’t think you are in a position to tell anyone about the accuracy of what you say.

Throw enough shit and some of it sticks eh…

jambalaya – Member
Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you’ll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

PM May had no choice because if she did not call for election then she would be seen as weak. If she called for election she risk losing the majority because it was too close after the referendum. The opposition wind up is still fresh …

PM May is doing the right thing because she needs to negotiate with EU bureaucrats.

She got guts to fight her own corner rather than being blamed for inheriting power.

Basically, the country is now starting from “new” with Brexit.

PM May is strong. 😛

@ jamby here is your first post on the May election thread have it as an aide memoir. Its not quite how you remember it as you called her actions a blinder

Just read through the 8 pages, some real jems. This one below sums it up for me.

So 7 weeks of political comment in the media by the commentators who got it so wrong last year?
Joy.

May will stand on a “hard Brexit” manifesto including WTO if necessary. She will add a commitment to keep employment protections as they are (ie at the “EU” level), minimum wage/living wage commitments. Election / manifesto means Tory soft-Brexit rebels are neutered

Tories to win by 100+ seats and of course extend their term in Government to 2022. As noted earlier this gives them more time post Brexit to secure new trade deals outside the EU putting them in the best possible position in 2022.

Not what I would have done but I can see the logic, May is playing a blinder.

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http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-may-about-to-call-an-election/page/8#post-8419043

Cougar been right about most things the 4 years I have been here. This election is the first one I have got wrong. If you trawl back you’ll see I repeatedly posted that an early election would be a mistake, a risk not worth taking

The nature of web forums is that your posting history is there for all to see.

@chewkw, you regularly post stuff that’s utterly batshit insane, but this time you seem to be utterly ignorant of the way British politics works. If you want proof, go and pick up copies of today’s Sun and Daily Mail. You can’t miss them, they’re called “newspapers” and right up until 21:59 last night they were strong supporters of Theresa May.

You also need to read up on the significance of the 1922 Committee.