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  • shooterists, which air rifles…
  • thestabiliser
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    Theoben for me. Had fwb and weirauch, fwb (47) was relatively poorly made with and awful trigger, weirach was the best engineered but heavy (35 & 77).

    thegreatape
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    I always like airgun threads. I know the difference between an underlever and break barrel, but can anyone briefly explain the differences between the various Weihrauch models, or how the range runs?

    wysiwyg
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    Basically the number refers to the ballpark date they start the design of the rifle. The HW77 was introduced early 80s and work started in 77. The 55 1950s etc. The 77 and 97 are the underlevers, the 100 the PCP all other break barrels of various sizes. K standards for carbine S for sports adjustable trigger, T thumbhole stock. The 77 is the defining underlever rifle. And the 35 pretty much the father of all break barrels. It has a breech lock to stop this ever so common floppy barrel syndrome..

    thegreatape
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    Cheers. Could never work out how the numbers worked!

    wysiwyg
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    If you want rifle porn give Venom arms hw80 or 77 a Google. Exhibition grade walnut, Lazaglide rebuilt and customised engraving. *drool

    squirrelking
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    It has a breech lock to stop this ever so common floppy barrel syndrome..

    So do Westlake 😉

    On another note, Gamo Compacts are bloody sore if you close the barrel on your finger.

    cyclingweakly
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    If anyone has any more questions about air rifles, or indeed anything, post them on here and WYSIWIG will spend a couple of hours googling and then post the results in an attempt to sound like he knows what he’s talking about!

    It’s all a bit David Brent! 😆

    mooman
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    Somebody mentioned a sharps innova. My ultimate/dream rifle as a boy.
    Which I finally got to own at 15.

    Once you bought the ‘tuning’ manual from TR Rob … Which basically just showed you how to turn the relief valve up; which upped the power to about 20ft/lb. You then had a small gun that had more punch than the fancy HW35E, and even the new HW80’s.
    Unfortunately, it mushroomed, and basically cracked the plastic housing of the rifle within about a tin of marksman pellets.

    Ps.
    Anybody want to buy a mk1 sharps innova … In need of restoration?

    proutster
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    What cheap air rifle for shooting the fat b*stard pigeons that are in my garden?

    wysiwyg
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    weakly> or alternatively I owned my first air rifle before my first proper bicycle, a HW30 when I was 7 which had to have the stock replaced as it was too big. In the 30 years following i’ve shot more different air rifles than I care to remember from BSA Meteor mkII’s to 30ftlb Rapids.

    It’s just quite possible that someone actually knows what theyre talking about, after all someone has to write whats on google…

    core
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    I got given a Webley Eclipse a few years ago, it’s a slightly unusual underlever .22 with a lever opening breech.

    Like this:

    I’ve got a cheap Hawke scope and a sling on it now, it’s a bloody good gun, shoots dead straight, but I actually prefer it on iron sights I think, they’re very accurate on this gun, and good enough for its useful range I think. Mostly used for shooting rabbits and squirrels in the garden.

    A couple of my mates are big into their air rifles, springers and pcp’s – I go shooting with them sometimes, but the limited range of sub 12 ft/lb guns doesn’t sit well with my patience levels, I just find it limiting, fine for back yard vermin and targets, and pest control in buildings, but sod all use otherwise if you ask me. I have heard tales of a few other people with unticketed air rifles over 12 ft/lb, now they’re more usable, but totally illegal.

    One mate has one of these: http://www.air-arms.co.uk/video/948620-air-arms-s400f-superlite-review Lovely thing, more useful with the Rowan Engineering multishot adapter he has now (even if you have to cycle it manually), but it’s not FAC, got to have the bottle, get that refilled, service it etc etc, it’s not cheap.

    I live on a farm and can get probably 1000 acres of permission if I ask nicely, so I’m going to put in for my FAC and get a .22 rimfire, for under £200 you can get a nice used Anschutz with a scope, CZ even cheaper. That’s less money than an average springer, and far more useful for me.

    wysiwyg
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    But wheres the fun in sitting 100yds away knocking over rabbit after rabbit?
    Its all about the stalk upto the shot more than the shot IMHO. I’d much rather spend 30 mins belly crawling through wet grass and have a rabbit leg it at the last minute than accumulate a pile of rabbits from the next postcode. Now if its purely for vermin control fair enough. But ive said it before and no one ever does as it results in a tirade of abuse, its enjoyable. As long as its for a purpose or if edible gets eaten I enjoy it.

    core
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    I like the stalk, don’t get me wrong, it’s a craft, it’s about knowing your quarry and the environment you’re in.

    But, we have lots of arable crops that the rabbits will hammer, there’s a lot about at the moment, and are overrun with grey squirrels, so if you want to control in numbers, the rimfire is the way.

    I make no bones about enjoying shooting, I don’t ever shoot huge bags of anything, and normally eat at least some of what I shoot, or give it to others, but it is fun, it requires skill, and an understanding of each species, the countryside in general and is just a great way to spend time.

    bear-uk
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    Night vision is ace for bagging rabbits. Around Christmas I managed 160 from 3 visits to the same farm.
    Also if you are struggling with accuracy then try decent pellets. Those Marksman and Spitfire brands are total rubbish. Try to get an assortment and have a play to see what suits your gun. Mine loves the CZ 4.52 Diablo’s
    And don’t put one of them crappy spring loaded Bipods on your barrel as it upsets the harmonics. The barrel should not be touching anything. I had a shot at a Pigeon with the barrel resting against the door frame, because there’s no recoil on a PCP you can see the pellet trajectory. Missed by a mile to one side on what is highly accurate rifle.

    daftvader
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    Well fingers crossed I’m off to look at a hatsan pcp on Monday… Yes it’s not what I was originally looking at but having had a play with a couple today the hw97 is going to be too much for mrsvader let alone minivader…

    Rockhopper
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    A cautionary tale – i had a Hatsan AT44 which was incredibly pellet fussy, so much so that i was getting two or three inches of variation at 20 yards between different brands! It was sent back to the importers who tested it and said it was fine with their preferred pellets (H&N Field Target) so thats what I started using and indeed it was okay. They are expensive pellets though.
    The auto safety bugged me as well.
    Eventually I sold it on, the buyer only kept it a few days before moving it on as well. The third owner said it was dreadful and threatened all sorts of legal action.
    Anyhow, I’ve heard of many people who are happy with AT44’s – sadly I wasn’t one of them.

    br
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    Minivader will learn to shoot on a stand, as i did at his age (8) , and when he is competent enough he will get his own junior rifle

    No, just get him a decent cadet rifle of his own – bought my son a Gamo when he was about 10y/o. This kinda thing:

    http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/gamo-junior-hunter-beech-177

    It’s not used now as he’s 17 so uses either of mine.

    br
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    duplicate

    natrix
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    put in for my FAC and get a .22 rimfire,

    Don’t bother, if you’re getting a FAC, get yourself a machine gun and shoot rabbits properly (Michael Caine even uses his to shoot tigers) 😯

    daftvader
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    The thing is br, I don’t want to spend out on him and then he doesn’t want to know after ten minutes (has happened before) . If he gets right into it then I will get him his own junior gun…

    daftvader
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    Well I went and did it… Virtually brand new hatsan at 44 with bottle and adapter, optic, bipod, silencer, target, bag, and hunting bag… Looking forward to shooting it properly (quick test fire in the persons garden and everything checked out)
    [/url]DSC_0174 by daftvader77, on Flickr[/img]

    PePPeR
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    I like the Hatsan, my friends got one, one of the few rifles with a proper trigger mechanism that you can’t double load and wreck your barrel!

    daftvader
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    I liked the way it felt… Mrsvader can hold it, and minivader can get his shoulder on the butt and reach the trigger (he’s inherited my gorilla arms) so win all round. Plus the back garden is 15m away from the road with a ten meter length to set up a small range.. Win all round really! 🙂

    Nipper99
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    I had a few HW80s in the 1980s and 1990s. You could buy a kit and a booklet back then called ‘Power Without Powder’ by a guy called Mike Wade which took the rifle to well over the legal 12ftlbs . There was a phase when 2.5 was having a bit of a resurgence as a calibre (don’t know if its still about). There was also another gunsmith about called Steve Harper who made barrels for the HW80 which had extra rifling – the ‘Harper Super Spin’ (he also made a thing called the Harper Fox – like the link which I also had and now also illegal). I bought a 2.5 ss carbine barrel for one of my 80s. That and the Mike Wade kit created a monster. I remember taking it to the local gun shop in Northampton who had a gadget for checking ftlbs who had it at 23 ftlbs and who said they shouldn’t give it back to me, but did, and asked me not to come back!

    Brocock Air Cartridges

    docstar
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    I have a 1984 (it’s as old as me) Weihrauch HW77 in .177, I bought it from airgunbbs classifieds for £130 about 12 years ago and had it lazaglide tuned and reblued by Steve Pope at webley venom. Amazing gun, more consistent shot to shot over the chrono than any pcp I ever owned and it still shows up my mates when I shoot better with a 32 year old springer than they do with a brand new fancy pants gun. So yea I’d recommend them as long as they have been tuned well.

    daftvader
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    mini update… have put ten pellets through it today and at 10 meters put a 20p group in, which i’m quite proud of… then minivader had a go. now he has never shot before at all, and he goes and does this….
    [/url]DSC_0185 by daftvader77, on Flickr[/img]
    7 shots in the blue… proud dad moment! 😀

    bear-uk
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    Very good.

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