What are the benefits of Scandium as a bike frame over other materials?

Weight… builds a light frame compared to steel for a similar strength.

I recently bought a 2nd hand Scandal, but was looking at the Lappierre scandium race frame but they wont sell that as frame only…

How do you like the Scandel frame?

Just my own observations: I've a scandium FS Kona – it's lighter than Alu and the tubes are much thinner, which seems to be less harsh. It's tougher than Alu (abrasion etc) and supposed to be a lot stronger. I'm impressed (I also have 853 steel HT and Ti CX frame and it doesn't lose out in comparison to those)
Bike geometry and design is more important than material though – but have no worries about buying Scandium.

I'm sure I read scandium frames have a limited fatigue life of a couple of years and so are only suited to racing.

Hold on aren't they just ally frames with a tiny bit of scandium added?

someone stole the scandium outa my scandal!! 😯

What JG said. Is it not a bit like M2/M4 or whatever?

On one don't bother any more, if it really was better then they'd all be doing it, I suspect is was emporer's new clothes, like most "innovations" in cycling!

On one don't bother any more

…despite lording it as the best frame since sliced bread when it was released (then going back to just Alu without changing the name as they changed thier mind, oh, and not reducing the price either)

Scandium is a metal added to an aluminium alloy to improve the alignment of the metal grain, and thus provide a stronger material allowing thinner walled tubes and thus reduced weight.

It's certainly true that early scandium frames were very brittle and failed (Dynamix being a prime example of this), but this was more due to over-excited engineers pushing the material too far.

I know people with Scandium Kona hardtails that are still being ridden after eight or nine years now. Most of Kona range is now build with Scandium alloy.

M2 was something special, it was a real metal-matrix material through the addition of ceramic. The M4 and M5 frames were merely a fancy alloy, costing far less to produce.

They can break through the Polar ice caps when launched from a Russian nuclear submarine.
Well that was what clinched for me when I was deciding whether to buy a Scandal.

How do you like the Scandel frame?

Not built it up as yet…

Yep its just another alloy with a bit of scandium in it, there was the pictures of the snapped in 2 Kona recently, but I am not too worried myself the Scandal looks strong, mine is the old one with the bit of Scandium in the tubing… I just wanted something a similar weight and ride to my stolen Tinbred.

On one don't bother any more

So it must be sh1t?
Yeah because On-One are at the forefront of technology aren't they lmfao!

if it really was better then they'd all be doing it, I suspect is was emporer's new clothes

Like all On-One bikes then.

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On one don't bother any more

So it must be sh1t?
Yeah because On-One are at the forefront of technology aren't they lmfao!

if it really was better then they'd all be doing it, I suspect is was emporer's new clothes

Like all On-One bikes then.

FFS, do try harder.

Why would they bin technology that sold well and worked? And like they've not been successfully making more or less the same steel frame for years.

Because they specialise in making cheap frames painted in tipex and needed to keep their margins which making from scandium didn't allow??

Hence the name not changing.

unobtanium is stronger and lighter. fact.

My Scandal 29er is for sale in the classifieds 🙁

So who makes scandium longish travel hardtails?

Adamantium is strong as ****. Ask Wolverine!

And like they've not been successfully making more or less the same steel frame for years.

Though if you've got a long enough memory, you might recall that also started out being made from branded pipes before on-one "realised" standard cro-mo was "just as good".