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  • Saving the GOVERNMENT AND COUNCILS MONEY
  • project
    Free Member

    Following on from the privatisation of the Forestry Commision,we dont want that,

    what could we cut and not see any difference in the service provided.

    The war in Afganistan and Iraq,pull out of the Falklands,

    Funding the compensation for the riots in northern ireland and hand it back to the irish,

    Sell off all the leisure and swiming pools,owned by the counncils, if the public want them pay for them at market rate,

    Privatise Royal Mail,

    sell off British Waterways, but insist on a percentage of the value of the land they then sell off or build on.

    Privatise the royal family, let them pay for themselves, possibly convert Buckingham Palce to a hostel for all the homeless uk citizens in london.

    Kuco
    Full Member

    sell off British Waterways

    But they are on about becoming a Trust. Wether it does happens I don't know.

    jon1973
    Free Member

    pull out of the Falklands

    Isn't there shit loads of oil around the Falklands?

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    ernie_lynch
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    Saving the GOVERNMENT AND COUNCILS MONEY

    Privatise Royal Mail,

    Royal Mail made £121 million profit last year (during a recession)

    How much will it 'save the government' to privatise it ?

    project
    Free Member

    But RM failed to pay enough into their pension scheme and owe millions to refund it,

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Doesn't sound like the sort of company anyone would want to buy then.

    project
    Free Member

    The governmnet will find some way of either taking on the pensions or just sell RM for a nominal amount, just as a way of getting rid of a nationalised company, and handing it over to the private sector,for them to make a profit, via cost cutting and staff reductions.

    richcc
    Free Member

    The governmnet will find some way of either taking on the pensions or just sell RM for a nominal amount, just as a way of getting rid of a nationalised company, and handing it over to the private sector,for them to make a profit, via cost cutting and staff reductions.

    sounds like just what the country needs 😐 maybe we could just let the private sector cherry pick the profitable bits too?

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    The governmnet will find some way of either taking on the pensions

    OK, I repeat my question then…….how much will it 'save the government' to privatise it ?

    BTW : "handing it over to the private sector,for them to make a profit" I have already pointed out that it is making a profit right now. So why the need say that it will make a profit when privatised ?

    Hohum
    Free Member

    jon1973 – Member
    pull out of the Falklands
    Isn't there shit loads of oil around the Falklands?

    It has gone very quiet over the last few months about our next North Sea.

    I take this to mean that there is no oil there or it will be just too expensive to get the stuff out.

    LycraLout
    Free Member

    Privatise Royal Mail,

    I take it that means sell off the profitable urban areas leaving the taxpayer to fund the non-profitable rural areas?

    jon1973
    Free Member

    …or it will be just too expensive to get the stuff out.

    I think it's those oil reserves that are going to be viable in a few years time as the 'east to get stuff' runs dry. Will be interesting to see if anything ever comes of it though.

    AlexBerry
    Free Member

    "Privatise the royal family, let them pay for themselves, possibly convert Buckingham Palce to a hostel for all the homeless uk citizens in london."……

    Including the Civil list (which has been reduced at a far greater rate than any other govornment, sorry taxpayer, funded department) the royal family are a massive net contributor to the UK economy…..anyone who can add up would want the Royal family to stay firmly where they are so that the beneift they bring comes directly to the uk (I.E. YOU AND ME!!!) and not Royal Family Ltd…….

    project
    Free Member

    RM may be profitable now, But when its privatised with less staff, on paper it will look like the government has got rid of a high cost asset, and a private company will make a nice profit for its shareholders.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    on paper it will look like the government has got rid of a high cost asset, and a private company will make a nice profit for its shareholders.

    So it's all "smoke and mirrors" stuff then……..fascinating.

    downgrade
    Free Member

    Tax on capital letters.

    Coyote
    Free Member

    RM may be profitable now, But when its privatised with less staff, on paper it will look like the government has got rid of a high cost asset, and a private company will make a nice profit for its shareholders.

    And no affordable service for people in rural areas. Nice idea.

    br
    Free Member

    Its not their money, its mine!

    konabunny
    Free Member

    You don't just cut the Royal Family off from the civil list. You nationalise their assets which are supposedly owned "privately". The tourists will still come (people still go and see Versailles, the Taj Mahal and the Kremlin even though those royal families were deposed/murdered some time ago), possibly in even greater numbers because they'd be able to gawp at more.

    It has gone very quiet over the last few months about our next North Sea.

    I take this to mean that there is no oil there or it will be just too expensive to get the stuff out.
    A parent is an oil and gas lawyer. Someone tried to recruit them to move out to Port Stanley in about 1985 because "a huge amount of oil was about to be found and it's going to get really big" but they said no. Since then, we've noticed that this meme has bubbled up every 5-8 years. I wouldn't be packing my boxes if I were an O&G lawyer today.

    aracer
    Free Member

    Sell off all the leisure and swiming pools,owned by the counncils, if the public want them pay for them at market rate,

    Over on Swimmers World:
    "Following on from the privatisation of the swimming pools,we dont want that,

    what could we cut and not see any difference in the service provided.

    Sell off all the mountain bike trails, owned by the Forestry Commission, if the public want them pay for them at market rate"

    philjunior
    Free Member

    Pfft, we all know they should just scrap Trident's replacement, which would allow us to get rid of the budget deficit in a couple of years AND keep the swimming pools, running tracks and forests government owned, thus keeping everyone happy.

    If we want the deterrent, which we "won't use" anyway, we should just pretend we still have it. No downside.

    konabunny
    Free Member

    If we want the deterrent, which we "won't use" anyway, we should just pretend we still have it

    Papier mache missiles! The submariners don't need to know they're fake. Just tell them they're lighter cos they're made out of unobtanium.

    TooTall
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    If you are anything other than trolling, come up with semi-sensible solutions rather than parochial / Socialist Worker headline / plain daft proposals.

    tree-magnet
    Free Member

    If we want the deterrent, which we "won't use" anyway, we should just pretend we still have it. No downside.

    How do you know they aren't already doing that?

    (I don't think they are, I just wanted to point out the flaw in that)

    konabunny
    Free Member

    If you are anything other than trolling, come up with semi-sensible solutions rather than parochial / Socialist Worker headline / plain daft proposals.

    Yes, miss. Sorry, miss. Won't do anything to undermine the seriousness of the STW politics forum, miss.

    aP
    Free Member

    Is it just me that finds it mildly amusing how much of our free Market utility companies are now owned by French and german state owned companies?

    Work camps and forced labour for the unemployed.

    kevonakona
    Free Member

    MTG been done and closer to (mtb'ing) home than you would think.
    Read the History part

    tron
    Free Member

    Stop landfill. Landfill tax costs a bomb, switch to MBT. Push the plants through the planning system and start saving some cash.

    Stop publishing council "newspapers" which tell the public how wonderful the council are. There's no need.

    Stop insisting that we build our own weapons systems. The average UK defence job costs the taxpayer an absolute fortune, and we often end up with naff / delayed kit. Just buy the kit the Americans are flogging.

    Start properly working at getting people off drugs, and keeping them off drugs. Drug users cost society a fortune. Do this no matter what it takes, whether it's legalising the drugs or treating people until they can be useful members of society.

    druidh
    Free Member

    philjunior – Member
    Pfft, we all know they should just scrap Trident's replacement, which would allow us to get rid of the budget deficit in a couple of years AND keep the swimming pools, running tracks and forests government owned, thus keeping everyone happy.

    Methinks you haven't really got hold of the scale of the problem yet. Trident replacement cost will be c.£130Bn over its life. The total deficit is currently almost £1,000Bn.

    tree-magnet
    Free Member

    druidh – Member
    Methinks you haven't really got hold of the scale of the problem yet. Trident replacement cost will be c.£130Bn over its life. The total deficit is currently almost £1,000Bn.

    tj – Member
    Look into my eyes, not around they eyes, into the eyes… and you're under. There is no deficit. GB left us with 1000's of pounds each in the public coffers, if he was still in charge we'd all be getting new bikes for free. It's the evil "condem" government trying to sell everything off… And you're back in the room.

    😉

    druidh
    Free Member

    😀

    BigDummy
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    Withdraw all NHS in-patient services except palliative care from anyone over, say, 65 years old.

    Re-weight whatever criteria it is that NICE uses to assess the cost-effectiveness of drugs so that, basically, if it's at all expensive it doesn't get used.

    1920s healthcare, but you'd slash the budget.

    clubber
    Free Member

    As suggested by a GP friend of mine.

    Cut paracetamol from the list of drugs available on prescription.

    El-bent
    Free Member

    Is it just me that finds it mildly amusing how much of our free Market utility companies are now owned by French and german state owned companies?

    Yes. I bet they are probably at laughing us because we still believe that privatisation is the answer.

    Stop insisting that we build our own weapons systems. The average UK defence job costs the taxpayer an absolute fortune, and we often end up with naff / delayed kit. Just buy the kit the Americans are flogging.

    Not a particularly bright idea that one. That's like the Argentinians not being able to make Exocet missles and having to buy them off the French, only for them to withhold their shipments and look you've just lost a war.

    It's like us trying to buy a stealth plane off the yanks, only for them to withhold the programming codes preventing us from modifying the plane ourselves and then having to rely on our "good old Ally" to do the work for us.

    Trident has certain political and economic benefits beyond the deterrent, which is why it will be kept.

    Privatisation, close down industries that provide key skills and operation independence…I'm sure if you could bottle your souls and sell them off the shelf, some of you would.

    You lot seem to be awfully quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to this deficit.

    project
    Free Member

    aracer – Member

    Sell off all the leisure and swiming pools,owned by the counncils, if the public want them pay for them at market rate,

    Over on Swimmers World:
    "Following on from the privatisation of the swimming pools,we dont want that,

    what could we cut and not see any difference in the service provided.

    Sell off all the mountain bike trails, owned by the Forestry Commission, if the public want them pay for them at market rate"

    Posted 9 hours ago # Report-Post

    LLandegla is privately owned, has had a lot of investment put into it,and has nice welsh natives.

    Also a lot of FC charge to park and do a lot of things there like eat food at the visitor centres, there are also lots of free places to ride bikes if you dont want to pay.

    project
    Free Member

    Close down all alcohol and drug dependancy units run by the state, and get the lazy sods working, cutting grass, or sweeping the streets.

    BigDummy
    Free Member

    Cut paracetamol from the list of drugs available on prescription.

    Did he have numbers? The wretched things are about 50p for 16 tablets. I can quite believe that there's something ridiculous going on where if they're supplied on prescription (to people who don't pay prescription charges presumably?) they're silly money.

    You lot seem to be awfully quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to this deficit.

    As is the government. 🙂

    clubber
    Free Member

    BD – you're right there. The problem is patients who come in asking for repeat prescriptions (no such thing) when they're either on benefits (so no charges) or for their kids (ditto). He did mention numbers though and it was a big number though not of the sort that itself would cut our defecit…

    tron
    Free Member

    Eurofighter was built specifically as something that Europe would be able to look after. It's still got US bits in it.

    Given what most UK defence projects cost, we could easily buy yank kit, pay them for all the spares and still be better off. Eurofighter is nigh on out of date, Merlin can't lift anything, and the SA80 was in service for years before we got a version made that worked well.

    Development costs are a major part of the price of these things, so it makes sense to buy the kit from someone who's already spread those costs across the biggest defence budget in the world. The other option is to produce not quite as good kit, and then desperately flog it to India etc. to try and spread the sunk costs.

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