Toying up with an idea. New Saint (I already have a rotor) or Pro II? 135mm rear. Ideas please.

My Saint front is my favourite hub ever. Also have a Pro2 wheelset too.

Its the older model, but its excellent.

Having currently got a Pro2 shod wheelset on order, I’ve been paying more attention to threads talking about them.

It seems every half hour someone is moaning about them, breaking flanges, going wobbly, having rubbish bearings, having the freehub body scored, being a pain etc etc.

So I’d say Saints.

Always used Hope hubs, no complaints at all just to balance the views. Reliable, easy to change bearings, minimal maintenance.

Can’t comment on Shimano hubs – never used them.

got hope pro 2 on my BFe….they work….noisy but they work fine

I have an old XC (5-bolt one) and it’s great, the Pro II needed a service after 5 years. Shimano? Haven’t used it for years but the rotor is here already.

Do the new saints have sealed bearings yet? That was enough to put me off the old saint hubs. Plus the freewheels on my mates are proper turd – clog up and spin freely in both directions with alarming regularity

Do you want noisy or quiet freewheeling?

Hopes’ every time for me. Easy to service, reliable, decent seals and I love the sound they make.

Love the fit and forget nature of Hope hubs. Whack them on, ride for at least 3 years, change the bearings, ride ro at least another 3 years. And change the pawls in the freehub occasionally too – mine (in my Hope XC) lasted 4 years before they started slipping/banging.

jackthedog…the reason you hear so much about them is there are so many out there. They must outnumber any other hub by about 5 to 1!

Pro2 gets my vote. Easy to service, light, make a cool noise(love/hate thing) and interface can be changed (ie 9mm, QR, 20mm, 10mm bolt thru, 10mm bolt up)…oh and hopes customer service is amazing. If you do ever break anything they’ll pretty much replace it for free/very cheap.

Although i do like the saints disc interface, but cone bearings so you have to keep ontop of them.

I’d like Hope to make a centerlock (sp?) hub. Will they?

Saints require very little looking after. Prices are pretty similar just now, but Saint hubs often get reduced as they are never as popluar as Hope.

Hope have the advantage that they are fit and forget- lots of people like that, so they become popluar. People forget that the cup and cone system is very good- if you look after it. The Saint is well sealed.

Hope and centrelock won’t happen- they have done their own rotors (3 bolt) and centrelock isn’t hugely popular- I think only DT make hubs outside of the Shimano family that suit.