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Ryanair – Dispatches C4
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konabunnyFree Member
I wouldn’t fly with them because I want to land in at least some proximity to the city that the airport bares the name of, not on another continent.
This is not only a hacky comment but also a stupid one. Where Ryanair flies to odd airports (because often it flies to th main airport), often they’re just as well or better connected to the town they serve than the “main airport” and you get in and out quicker because it’s a smaller operation. Equally I often don’t want to hang out in whatever the town nearest to the airport is because I’m going to be going somewhere else anyway.
MSPFull MemberThe thing is, most major city’s are transport hubs, if you land in the middle of nowhere you have to travel to the city first to get back out if your going somewhere else.
stilltortoiseFree MemberThe fact that Ryanair fly to some remote, minor airports hugely misses the point of this thread. I for one will be interested to see how this pans out. I’ve used RyanAir many times for work and holiday and despite the fact I detest Leary, the service his airline provides is not without merit. Ryanair are all about moving passengers from A to B quickly and relatively inexpensively. I hope they are doing that safely.
SandwichFull MemberThis is not only a hacky comment but also a stupid one. Where Ryanair flies to odd airports (because often it flies to the main airport), often they’re just as well or better connected to the town they serve than the “main airport” and you get in and out quicker because it’s a smaller operation.
Fly into Munich with Ryan and watch the savings on your flight compared to Easy/scheduled airline who fly into Munich proper disappear in coach and train costs. As just one example.
DougDFull MemberSeparately, Flaperon I was under the impression that Ryanair was registered in Ireland rather than the UK because it allowed them to run operations in a way that would not be possible for an airline registered in the UK. Any insight on that?
would they not also want to be based in Ireland vs UK from a corporation tax perspective?
CaptainFlashheartFree MemberThe thing is, most major city’s are transport hubs, if you land in the middle of nowhere you have to travel to the city first to get back out if your going somewhere else.
Hahn is a joke. How on earth it’s called Frankfurt is beyond me! It’s about 100km from Frankfurt!
I hope they are doing that safely
I’d rather not leave flight safety to ‘hope’.
zokesFree Memberwould they not also want to be based in Ireland vs UK from a corporation tax perspective?
Perhaps, but as Flaperon answered, the most obvious reason for them being based in Ireland is, um, because they’re an Irish company.
vinnyehFull MemberNever understood why the Ryanair flight crew stay with the airline, since they’re so clearly putting their lives on the line each time they fly.
JunkyardFree Membertax laws innit . Does the owner strike you as a man so proud of his heritage he is happy to pay more tax to the homeland as a altruistic act or does he strike you as someone whose business model is about low costs to maximise profits
Its a tough call that one
stilltortoiseFree MemberI’d rather not leave flight safety to ‘hope’.
I expect most of us assume that flying on a scheduled airline is bound up in sufficient rules and regulations that the flight is “safe”. I for one don’t investigate every airline’s safety record or procedures to ensure they measure up to something I’m unqualified to measure. Granted I’d think twice about flying on an airline with an unenviable record of falling out of the sky, but that’s not happened in this case.
My comment refers to the fact I hope Ryanair are flying within – if not above – the guidelines laid out by the relevant authorities and will watch this with interest. My ability to define air travel as safe extends little further than counting the number of wings.
PigfaceFree MemberRyan Air is very optimistic in calling Nykoping Stockholm, a good hour on a coach gets you into Stockholm.
deadlydarcyFree MemberAbout as optimistic as calling Gatwick “London Gatwick” 🙂 Or indeed, “London Stanstead” or “London Luton”. Even Heathrow manages to have the most expensive train journey (per mile) in Europe (though to be fair, it’s mostly used by business commuters who are back from flogging post-it notes and closing other high-powered photocopier paper supply deals on the other side of the world. The tube or coach is probably much cheaper). I imagine it probably has wifi so that they can immediately open up their non-apple netbooks/tablets/mobile phones and bleat on internet forums about how business class on Virgin or BA is the only way to fly really.
footflapsFull Memberit’s mostly used by business commuters who are back from flogging post-it notes and closing other high-powered photocopier paper supply deals on the other side of the world
Surely they’ll be picked up by a Limo – public transport is just for the plebs!
CaptainFlashheartFree Member😆 @ DD as per…!
The HEXP is indeed stupidly expensive, but it’s quick and efficient. However, there are alternatives. Normal trains, tube, coaches etc. Ditto LGW, where there are normal, cheap (in as much as any UK train journey is cheap!) trains as well as the now very disappointing Gatwick Express.
LGW and LHR aren’t really “London”, I agree. The only one that is would be City, but they are both close enough to the centre to be easily accessible. As shown above, the likes of Frankfurt Hahn really are too far away. Southampton (Lovely airport, BTW) is as far away!
PigfaceFree MemberA sedan chair carried by nubile youngsters whose gender will be chosen by the afore hinted at titan of industry.
St Albans to Gatwick is a doddle as you just jump on the Bedford Brighton service.
KlunkFree Memberused to fly ryanair back in the mid 90’s dublin/cork-stanstead. Used to love their duty free policy, unlike other airlines they didn’t care if you’d already purchased your limit at the airport, how I never got pulled at stanstead struggling through customs weighed down with booty.
zokesFree MemberLGW and LHR aren’t really “London”, I agree.
Both probably nearer to the centre in terms of public transport (rather than taxis) than most of the stupid Aussie airports. Brissie excepted, the concept of mass public transport that isn’t a bus, and costs less than a taxi ride seems to elude them. I seem to spend as much, if not more, on 4x taxi than the return air fare on some journeys.
geetee1972Free MemberI expect most of us assume that flying on a scheduled airline is bound up in sufficient rules and regulations that the flight is “safe”
True to a certain degree, but Flaperon’s comment on the flight time directive shows that the rules are not consistent. The UK has a different set of rules governing the duty hours of pilots compared to the rest of Europe.
The Flight Time directive is trying to harmonise those rules (as I understand it) i.e. increase the UK regulation to fall in line with the European one (and of course being an Irish registered airline means you’re flight time hours are governed by the EU legislation rather than the UK).
Bottom line is that the move to EU rules will increase the hours pilots have to fly, in some instances potentially very dangerously. There are already studies coming out of the US that show how pilots are ‘winking’ out during flights due to fatigue.
OK so the UK schedules now in some airlines at least, means that pilots can have a relatively easy life (Mrs GeeTee for instances typically does a 30 hour week) but heck, I’d rather have fresh, under worked pilots than tired and over worked ones any day of the week!
deadlydarcyFree MemberSurely the pilots can have a snooze while the plane’s on autopilot anyway or sleep in shifts between the co-pilot and the main man?
konabunnyFree MemberThe HEXP is indeed stupidly expensive, but it’s quick and efficient.
It’s quick and efficient…so long as you don’t want to go to the centre of London…or the City…or Canary Wharf…
Fly into Munich with Ryan and watch the savings on your flight compared to Easy/scheduled airline who fly into Munich proper disappear in coach and train costs. As just one example.
Or fly into SXF and get into town on a direct train instead of taking a bus to a train. Or fly into Gothenburg City Airport or Rome Ciampino that’s closer to the centre than the “real” airports, and smaller so less hassle. As just three examples.
PigfaceFree MemberGBurg City is much closer than its counterpart is a bit scary landing there in bad weather 😆
brFree MemberThe thing is, most major city’s are transport hubs, if you land in the middle of nowhere you have to travel to the city first to get back out if your going somewhere else.
Only a fool books their flight based on the airports name, it’s where it is and where you need to go that counts.
I was working once near Nijmegen. My colleagues had already booked their flights (to Amsterdam). I’d booked mine to Dusseldorf. Why are you flying to Germany they said, when we’re working in Holland?
Because the airport is nearer, the road is far quicker and I’ll get a better hire car. Neither of them had actually looked at a map.
crazy-legsFull MemberOnly a fool books their flight based on the airports name, it’s where it is and where you need to go that counts.
I heard a funny story about a Scandinavian couple who got on a Ryanair flight to Rodez then wondered why they were in the south of France – they’d thought they were going to Rhodes. Booked accommodation there but then booked the wrong flight having got confused with the names.
🙂
mikertroidFree MemberSurely the pilots can have a snooze while the plane’s on autopilot anyway or sleep in shifts between the co-pilot and the main man?
Yes, you can. Controlled Napping; preferable to the whole crew falling asleep at the same time! However 20 minutes nap in your flight deck position doesn’t offset the whole cumulative fatigue that is a feature of many pilots’ lives.
TuckerUKFree MemberI expect most of us assume that flying on a scheduled airline is bound up in sufficient rules and regulations that the flight is “safe”.
No, not really. I believe commercial air travel is only second in risk to bicycle travel (on a per journey basis).
chewkwFree MemberWell a Senior Pilot got fired for making this programme … Ryanair sacks pilot for questioning safety on TV
Ya … firing the pilot does not win back your safety credibility … will try my best not to fly with you if possible in my entire life.
dannybgoodeFull MemberWhilst I don’t particularly like what I see of Mr O’Leary at least he’s honest about his contempt for his customers.
I have seen him time and time again in interviews say along the lines of ‘they’re paying £1 for their ticket – what do they expect?’.
Far more refreshing than some PR droid spout BS about how valuable their customers are and how much they share their concerns.
As for flying RA – have done before and they were no better or worse than EasyJet et al…
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