A guy here at work has just been hit/pushed over by a car that did not stop for a red traffic light, he was crossing the road on foot at the time?

He is scratched and a bit bruised but no serious injury, well not one that he feels needs hospital treatment.

It did bring up a discussion here though, what offence could the drive be done for if they were caught?

Would this be classed as dangerous driving or driving without due care and attention?

I take not stopping is another offence in itself?

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Pretty sure it'd be classed as dangerous driving. Failing to stop is the bigger of the two though, he'd get hammered for that.

I'd still get himself down the doctors even if he doesn't think anything is wrong. If he has neck or back problems or develops a phobia about cars in 5 years it's only right the driver's insurance stumps up for it. That's why car drivers pay insurance.

Assuming he got the registration, otherwise it's a bit pointless.

Yep, filing to stop at the scene of an accident. Failing to stop at a red light (hard to prove)?

What the driver would be charged with would be the highest that the police had evidence for.

It'd probably be failing to stop & due care & attn.

I'd still get himself down the doctors even if he doesn't think anything is wrong

Samuri, this has been pointed out to him, but being a 19 year old hero, he seem quite happy for the ladies here to tend to him 😉

No registration taken sadly.

So would it be classed as dangerous driving?

No registration taken sadly.

Hypothetical exercise then…

It wouldn't be classed as anything without a reg. Bit of a moot point really.

Yes crazy-legs, unless there is cctv coverage, which is being looked into as we speak.

So would it be classed as dangerous driving?

If he deliberately went through the red light – yes

If it was an oversight – no

whether the former can be proved is another matter

As pointed out, he would be charged with the highest offence that the police had evidence of. There is no evidence (reg to trace the driver). Therefore no charges could be brought.

The fact that he hit a pedestrian suggest "without due care", pretty sure they'd do him with failing to stop at a red light also, intentional or not and definitely falling to stop after an accident. Might be down to the mood of the cop involved what they charged him with.

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If only we had an ambassador for driving on this forum.

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haven't you heard? – he's now an expert psychologist of physicist or sommat

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Might be down to the mood of the cop involved what they charged him with.

They'd charge him (her?) with what was the most likely to gain a conviction based on the evidence. Failure to stop would probably be put forward as an aggravating circumstance.

It would be careless driving (takes precedence over a red light offence due to the collision with pedestrian) unless there are other circumstances that would push it towards dangerous driving (excessive speed, injury to pedestrian) and failure to stop and failure to report a road traffic accident.

Regards

I would take a punt at careless driving.

Dangerous driving has to be "far below the standards of a reasonable and honest driver" you would not get dangerous driving home for this.
There is a fail to stop element, and possibly careless but again difficult if it is one word against the other. Remember it's not the police who decide on the charge it's the CPS decision.

could be on CCTV?

That's why car drivers pay insurance. Assuming he got the registration, otherwise it's a bit pointless.

Not sure how "hit n run" cases work but in some circumstances you can claim thru the MIB – no, not the Men in Black 😆 But remember that all these uninsured drivers and those not stopping add to your premiums as the claims are paid for by the insurance industry and passed on in higher premiums.

I had a mate who was hit by a car going the wrong way round a one way system. He reported it and forgot about it, but months down the line his knee that he hurt was not getting any better and put in one of those claims where all the insurance chips in.He was asked for the crime reference number and lo and behold the lazy desk sarge had not recorded it.Get your mate to report it and get a crime reference number if he does nothing else.