not that I have anything against lycra, but for slightly more leisurely road rides is there anything out there that are normal shorts, but less baggie than your traditional mtb style?

I ended up with some DHB Dynos.

More here: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/non-baggy-baggy-shorts-baggy

The original bib-tight!

Giro New Road

Rapha for me

surely if you are joining the lycra lovers.. you need something that shows your masculinity

how about these:

I use endura singletracks as road/touring shorts, not too baggy nice zipped vents very comfy and hard wearing.

Haglöfs Lizard Shorts – not cycling shorts, but a stretchy soft shell fabric that’s nice compromise between baggy enough not to look daft and close enough not to flap around. Not bike shorts, but mine get worn a lot on the cross bike over bib shorts or a padded liner short.

I use Sugoi Utility shorts – designed for committing and cheap at Start Cycles.

In fact, I find em so comfy I use them for mtbing too.

I’ve got a pair of Rapha Touring Shorts (grey) for sale. 30″ waist.
Brand new, never worn for cycling. Personally I find them a bit short in the leg for me but from my user name you may work out that I have extra long legs… 😉

£40, post back on here if you’re interested.

Endura Urban Shorts

I wear Endura Singletrack shorts on the tourer/CX.