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  • Reformed fish. Yes or No?
  • leffeboy
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    I’d love to know what sort of food these food chemists actually eat. If I were them I’d be scared to go anywhere near a supermarket (unless of course this was a marillion reference)

    Junkyard
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    MRM [mechanically recovered meat]is meat residue which is left on the carcass after all the prime cuts have been removed.

    It is pressure-blasted off the bones by machinery and forms a reddish slurry which resembles mince.

    Some companies then use it to bulk up their meat products.

    there is a reason some meat products are cheap
    When I was astudent kwik save own burgers and mince were pound for pound cheaper than their own dog food 😯

    scaredypants
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    everyone deserves a second chance, even fish

    unless it did something really bad

    scaredypants
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    pretty much all the sliced ham you can get at sainsbos says formed from selected cuts. I assume that means mechanically recovered & left to set

    donsimon
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    (unless of course this was a marillion reference)

    Absolutely not! what a horrible thought and that should be posted here.

    woody2000
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    Personally, I think it’s a good thing. I know it’s really just a way to maximise profit, but at the same time I suppose (naively maybe) that it also reduces waste from a valuable and dwindling resource. Or to put it another way – I’ll eat owt, me.

    🙂

    CaptainBudget
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    @scaredypants:
    Check the packaging, they aren’t actually allowed to call it “meat,” so the meat content won’t include MRM.

    The way they make cheap sliced ham involves throwing actual meat (and probs some MRM, check it) with some water, salt and the odd chemical thingy, push it into a mould and literally crush it into shape using an insanely poewerful machine.

    MRM (and presumably MRF) is not allowed to be called meat because the resultant product is so structurally different. The texture, smell and even taste bear no resemblence to actual meat, the process of acquiring it alters it that much.

    geoffj
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    scaredypants
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    capnbudget:

    what about the big lumps of meat on the deli with a bone in the middle – that real, or just pressed with a bone inserted beforehand ?

    (are you the poor side of flash’s family ??)

    CaptainFlashheart
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    (are you the poor side of flash’s family ??)

    PMSL! 🙂

    thebunk
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    The acceptable face of reformed fish:

    This is wrong:

    This is wrong, yet I am strangely drawn to it…

    coffeeking
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    Fish don’t have fingers but I’ve eaten a few of them before and not died, so I’d say it’s fine 🙂

    <this post does not consitute good scientific practice>

    toys19
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    Its all protein/fat/fibre I couldn’t give a damn if looks like a bit of an animal or not. Vultures and dogs eat everything, its good for you.

    RustySpanner
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    “…squid yes, not so octopus……….”

    Cougar
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    I’m confused as to what difference it makes as to whether the meat is cut off or washed off.

    But then, I’m veggie, so I’m often confused about what omnivores will and won’t eat.

    toys19
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    I’m confused as to what difference it makes as to whether the meat is cut off or washed off.

    Exactly, the difference is in perception.

    Cougar
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    TBF, the name doesn’t help its cause any.

    gonefishin
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    I’m confused as to what difference it makes as to whether the meat is cut off or washed off

    Think of it like the difference between havesting veg by cutting it and using a great big jetwash to create a veggie goo which is then reformed along with all sorts of other additives into somthing that resembles the vegetables it used to be. Which of the two would you prefer to eat and which do you think would taste nicer.

    It’s all the stuff that has to be added to the reformed meat that is the issue rather than the actual meat itself, well that and the large amounts of fat, connective tissue, skin etc which don’t have much nutritional value.

    mastiles_fanylion
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    If it tastes nice I will eat it. I do sometimes wonder at just what crap goes into making stuff but then I forget as I am munching away on a tasty sausage or whatever.

    Cougar
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    … a veggie goo which is then reformed along with all sorts of other additives into somthing that resembles the vegetables it used to be.

    A bit like Dolmio / Ragu, then?

    It’s all the stuff that has to be added to the reformed meat that is the issue

    If that’s the case then I’d agree that that may be a more of problem. However, I don’t see any reference to additives in the (frankly odd) link supplied by the OP.

    gonefishin
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    A bit like Dolmio / Ragu, then

    More like a sauce made up of the leftover parts of the veg that you didn’t use for your main product which are then somehow reformed into a tomato.

    phil.w
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    I do sometimes wonder at just what crap goes into making stuff but then I forget as I am munching away on a tasty sausage or whatever.

    How to make sausages cheap…

    The pork content of a sausage only has to be 40%, the rest is cheap bulk, mainly water, chicken & breadcrumbs.

    The 40% pork does not have to be all meat, just pig. So skin, connective tissue, fat etc are all fair contents. This means you could have more chicken meat than pork meat in your ‘pork’ sausages.

    This all causes a cooking problem as they just stew in there own juices which just wont stay in. This is why sugar is added as this browns nicely on the outside giving the impression of a well cooked quality sausage.

    Hot dog anyone?

    mastiles_fanylion
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    Yeah but they taste good.

    Cougar
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    Hot dog anyone?

    Yes please.

    Guaranteed free from chicken, pig fat, connective tissue, skin…

    CharlieMungus
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    I’m often confused about what omnivores will and won’t eat

    The clue is right there in the name

    gonefishin
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    Guaranteed free from chicken, pig fat, connective tissue, skin…

    …texture, flavour.

    Sorry couldn’t resist. 😉

    To be fair though I can’t stand “normal” hot dogs as they too are prety much free for texture and flavour too.

    Cougar
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    The clue is right there in the name

    You’d think so, but plenty turn their nose up at various things. Would you eat: horse, kitten, human, lamb that you’d seen in the field, rabbit that you’d have to kill yourself, etc…?

    Some would say “all of the above” of course, but different people have different levels of squeamishness / morals. The “omnivore” moniker is a bit of a misnomer, which is kinda what I was getting at back there.

    …texture, flavour.

    I take your point that some veggie ‘alternatives’ are very different to the meat dishes they’re replacing; however, from what I remember of meat hot dogs (last time I had one, twenty years ago), the veggie versions are as close to identical as makes no odds. Which isn’t all that surprising given how much “meat” there actually is in a conventional hot dog.

    donsimon
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    However, I don’t see any reference to additives in the (frankly odd) link supplied by the OP.

    And you don’t get any prizes because you haven’t understood the purpose of the post. 🙄 😆

    CharlieMungus
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    You’d think so, but plenty turn their nose up at various things. Would you eat:

    horse – Yes
    kitten – Yes,
    Human – No, unless…nah, No.
    lamb that you’d seen in the field – Yes
    rabbit that you’d have to kill yourself – Not sure the process is part of it, but Rabbit- Yes

    But I agree, Omni is fairly strong.

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